The evolution of Windows from its beginnings to date

[pan1300]

Re: The evolution of Windows from its beginnings to date

hi

Same here, used open office before as matter of test, experience wasn't very good when one's used with MS Office Pro. For beginners it may be ok, but for advanced users it's not ideal (personal opinion).

[microchick]

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[QUOTE=bonilla;241782]Open Office was tested in my school but many formulas or schemes didnt work as well as in Office.
Windows will always have the benefit of being [U]the[/U] OS with the guarentee to work .
Linux is a alternative. But driver support is in my opinion worse than in the windows os. I always have a friend who cannot install a soft or a hardware because of the driver.
Companies cannot take the risk to pass on hardware that they bought.[/QUOTE]

The trouble wih Open Office is that in its document the macros are far too smaller and they can't support some complicated programms. Thats why most of the programmers like to use MS Office as its much more supported and it has got good quality macros which can coupe with complicated programms. I haven't seen much evolution in Open office since it was launched.

[mahrkpat]

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Are businesses not migrating to cloud computing I've would have that would
have been more attractive MS, Google and others are providing office based
services so that endless upgrading cycle stops, would it not be more cost
effective?

[microchick]

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@mahrkpat: The trouble is that most of the business are still very old fashioned and its very costy to be moving the system every week to something new. Its ok for small organisation with a couple hundreds of employees to move system from one to another quickly but for the big organisations with thousands of employees its always difficult to move system and then training all the staff to get used to the new system.

[findeciclo]

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We are more familiar with Windows, that's the truth. But indeed, Windows have a cost for the companies, MS Office too.
So I say many companies, and state administrations are changing to Linux distros because Linux is freeware at all.
I don`t like the way of work of Linux, but I understand that many companies can't pay to Microsoft patents.
On the other hand, workers from the companies must learn the new O.S. and it is a hard work.
Best regards.

[bonilla]

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[QUOTE=microchick;241790]The trouble wih Open Office is that in its document the macros are far too smaller and they can't support some complicated programms. Thats why most of the programmers like to use MS Office as its much more supported and it has got good quality macros which can coupe with complicated programms. I haven't seen much evolution in Open office since it was launched.[/QUOTE]

Is VB or VBA a language only used by Microsoft ?
I thought it was a free language .
OpenOffice has only few libraries and the base is the same (Sub/End Sub...)

Why can't they reproduce all fonctions or library (or use those from Microsoft?)

[gcms]

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Dear bonilla VB or VBA is language not only used by the microsoft but also used by the developers for the web development purpose vb is the newest version GW basic a very old version as microchick state that it impossible for the most organization to change its setup and it is not a free language just like microsoft office why open office not support many macros because it is free

[findeciclo]

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Visual Basic is a programming language event driven, developed by Alan Cooper for Microsoft. This programming language is a dialect of BASIC, with important additions. Its first version was introduced in 1991 with the intention to simplify programming using a fully graphical development environment to facilitate the creation of graphical interfaces and, to some extent, the same programming.

The last version was the 6, released in 1998, for which Microsoft extended support until March 2008.

In 2001 Microsoft planned to abandon the development based on the Win32 API and move to a common framework framework or library, regardless of the version of the operating system. NET Framework through Visual Basic. NET (and other languages like C Sharp (C #) code transition easily between them) was the successor to Visual Basic 6.

Although Visual Basic is general purpose, it also provides facilities for developing database applications using Data Access Objects, Remote Data Objects, or ActiveX Data Objects.

Visual Basic contains an integrated development environment or IDE that integrates text editor to edit the source code, a debugger, a compiler (and linker) and a graphics editor or GUI interfaces.

Best regards.

[bonilla]

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Thanks for the explanation.
But why OpenOffice cannot use full libraries of VB?
Almost all product who try to copy or improve Windows or Microsoft programs cannot guaranty the compatibility... That's wierd...

[findeciclo]

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[QUOTE=bonilla;241982]Thanks for the explanation.
But why OpenOffice cannot use full libraries of VB?
Almost all product who try to copy or improve Windows or Microsoft programs cannot guaranty the compatibility... That's wierd...[/QUOTE]

Perhaps there is the same reason that Samsung has lost a lawsuit with Apple. Because they can be reported for plagiarism or copying. I do not know for sure, but it is no logical that Open Office can not use certain libraries when actually needed.

Best regards.

[odysseas1991]

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[QUOTE=bonilla;241982]Thanks for the explanation.
But why OpenOffice cannot use full libraries of VB?
Almost all product who try to copy or improve Windows or Microsoft programs cannot guaranty the compatibility... That's wierd...[/QUOTE]

Most likely compatability issues that the developers were reluctant to sort out. Microsoft do not want people developing things through software they haven't moderated since it could cause issues on their systems and they will get the blame. A bit like apple not allowing flash on their products.

[microchick]

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[QUOTE=bonilla;241982]Thanks for the explanation.
But why OpenOffice cannot use full libraries of VB?
Almost all product who try to copy or improve Windows or Microsoft programs cannot guaranty the compatibility... That's wierd...[/QUOTE]

OpenOffice can not improve Windows or microsoft programs for sure. If microsoft allowed OpenOffice to use its libraries it would mean that Microsoft will have to say good bye to Microsoft Office bacuse people will swich to a free programs with the same strength as MS Office for free. MS will loose a lot of business.

[gcms]

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open office is open source programme and u can mdified it according to u r needs but in microsoftoffice u can not make changes because it is commercially licensed softwear and open office is free of cost.Microsoft depends on the sales of Office and its other software to remain profitable, giving it a strong incentive to offer the features, support,and to make extra macros libraries to the msoffice

[microchick]

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One thing is weird. Why microsoft needs java runtime environment for their programs and networking. Why can't Microsoft develope their own environment for their won programs to be completely independent. To date, the Java platform has attracted more than 9 million software developers. It's used in every major industry segment and has a presence in a wide range of devices, computers, and networks.

[mahrkpat]

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[QUOTE=microchick;242303]One thing is weird. Why microsoft needs java runtime environment for their programs and networking. Why can't Microsoft develope their own environment for their won programs to be completely independent. To date, the Java platform has attracted more than 9 million software developers. It's used in every major industry segment and has a presence in a wide range of devices, computers, and networks.[/QUOTE]

I think you have more or less answered your own question JAVA is used a lot and it is a free platform if MS developed a similar platform hows much would it cost them and would they release it as a free platform to developers.
It would not be worthwhile and no developer would want to incur the extra costs so it would be a failure for MS.