Multi Satellite Set-up

[undegtri]

I've been wondering if there are any fixed set-ups I can explore that will give me 28deg East through to 13deg East?

The reason I ask is because I've tried setting up a motorised system before and failed badly, and I know i've seen fixed dishes with multiple LNBs to cope with multi-sat setups.

Just looking for a few pointers really

[pan1300]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

I've been wondering if there are any fixed set-ups I can explore that will give me 28deg East through to 13deg East?

The reason I ask is because I've tried setting up a motorised system before and failed badly, and I know i've seen fixed dishes with multiple LNBs to cope with multi-sat setups.

Just looking for a few pointers really

hi undegtri

I have one of those Visiosat dishes with 4 lnb's (Astra 1, 2, 3 and Hotbird), and am very pleased with it!! Alternative is eg WaveFrontier (I believe up to 16 sats). In the end will cost more than a motor, but U can use different sats at the same time and zapping goes much quicker.

Honoustly, I will look later on for a motor-setup, next to my existing dish.

Take a look/read/search here in out satlover forum, we've had some threads about motor vs fixed.

Good luck anyway, and let us know how it worked out.

[toby69]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

dont know why you want multifeed, i went from multi-setup 7 lnbs

this > http://www.satlover.eu/forum/attachm...2-image000.jpg

to this > http://www.satlover.eu/forum/attachm...m-image004.jpg

motorised system was easy and much less time consuming.

what difficulties did you have setting up motor, seemed simple for me.

[bokkie]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

A decent sized dish of about 1 metre should give you 13e through to 28e. Probably go with a triax as they have multi feed arms which make things a bit easier.
I still say motorised is better though.

[Mobley3]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

Like toby I went from a Fixed Dish , 1Mtr with 3 twin Lnb's 28E, 19E, 13E, which worked perfectly, but I get so much more now with my dish motorised.

Regards Mobley3

[undegtri]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

dont know why you want multifeed, i went from multi-setup 7 lnbs

this > http://www.satlover.eu/forum/attachm...2-image000.jpg

to this > http://www.satlover.eu/forum/attachm...m-image004.jpg

motorised system was easy and much less time consuming.

what difficulties did you have setting up motor, seemed simple for me.

Thanks for the advice guys. The problems I had with the motorised system was the physical alignment I followed god knows how many tutorials and could never get it right.

As you all seem to sway to the motorised systems do you know of any fool ok make that idiot proof tutorials?

Cheers
UnDegTri

[Mobley3]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

The most important thing to make sure of is that your mounting pole is completely vertical
in all planes, use packers to achieve this if necessary. then when you mount the motor make sure it is at centre zero ,fit loosely to pole facing south and enter your co-ordinates in motor settings under USAls, check Dishpointers or similar for these,then drive the motor to your reference Sat ,probably 1W for UK and peak for best signal, then drive to 39E and check signals then go to 30W and do same.Take your time doing all this as it can save you hours later if you try to rush things,also keep in mind safety when dealing with ladders etc.

Regards Mobley3

[Archmage]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

I had to laugh, "use packers if neccessary"
I would think it is extremely unlikely that your wall will be vertical enough to simply bolt onto.
So packing will be needed, guaranteed...

Here is my tip however, use coins instead of washers, they are usually cheaper, and you already have a good selection on hand!
When I did mine I also managed to get a couple of spirit levels with magnetic bases, so I could adjust everything without having to grow extra limbs.

[undegtri]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

The most important thing to make sure of is that your mounting pole is completely vertical
in all planes, use packers to achieve this if necessary. then when you mount the motor make sure it is at centre zero ,fit loosely to pole facing south and enter your co-ordinates in motor settings under USAls, check Dishpointers or similar for these,then drive the motor to your reference Sat ,probably 1W for UK and peak for best signal, then drive to 39E and check signals then go to 30W and do same.Take your time doing all this as it can save you hours later if you try to rush things,also keep in mind safety when dealing with ladders etc.

Regards Mobley3

With the centre point being 1W for the UK (How do I check if this is my centre?), do you mean tweak for the best signal?

In the past I've normally used a meter to find the satellite, is this a good way of achieving an accurate setup? Or is there a better way?

So I'm assuming with the pole 100% vertical and the centre set 39E and 30W should fall into place? I'm only asking because thats what I've fallen over with in the past.

[toby69]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

how i set-up.
scaffold pole, set vertical.
find due south, chalk line from pole.
add motor to pole, motor set to 0'. and point south using chalk line as guide.
add dish to motor pole making sure dish centre is centre of motor pole.
box switch on with live fta transponder number 0.08west.
perhaps then some slight adjustment required, till channel appears, tighten nuts etc like you would clinder head of car.
as my box has nudge step facility, using live fta transponder numbers, i nudged to each sat and saved positions each time.

[besit]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

Like I wrote before. One of my friends got a 1,2m dish with 4W 5E 13E 19E 28E 36E. And it's in Russia which is no one thought about when launching satellites. I think in Britain it's possible to catch half a sky (i don't mean only Sky UK, but entire sky above) on a ,8m dish. With multifeed for sure.
My setup is 13E-9E-5E on 1,1 dish, but my house surrounded with many trees and LNBs looks to the sky through branches.

[digicon]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

Its all well and good giving instructions but your better watching tutorials so you can rewind back if need be and then watch it again, Here is one of the better ones:

_http://www.*******.com/watch?v=-k_yhxmGlEA

[Mobley3]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

With the centre point being 1W for the UK (How do I check if this is my centre?), do you mean tweak for the best signal?

In the past I've normally used a meter to find the satellite, is this a good way of achieving an accurate setup? Or is there a better way?

So I'm assuming with the pole 100% vertical and the centre set 39E and 30W should fall into place? I'm only asking because thats what I've fallen over with in the past.

You do not try to tweak the dish until you have driven it to your referenc sat.
the idea is that your reference sat is at the highest point of your arc for easy alignment, although in theory it is possible to set up on any sat you wish to. 1w is the sat that is nearest to direct south in the UK. A sat meter will certainly help.

Hope this helps.

Regards Mobley3

[undegtri]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

Well I've got to say a HUGE thank you to everyone who gave me advice for today I've installed a DISEqC 1.2 MOTOR on a 1M dish thats been in the Garden for probably nearly 7 years.

I did however notice that the services seem to be much less on the motorised setup than the fixed dish I've been using. Previously I've been using a 60cm dish fixed on 13E which gave 1600 services approximately, now on the motorised system its only finding 750 services.

Could this be down to the installation or maybe the LNB? Just as a note I've got above 85%+ signal on all satellites that I point the motorised dish to.

As always any help would be appreciated.

[pan1300]

Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

hi undegtri

a bit difficult to say - I have about 1800 tv channels and 460 radio channels on BH 13E (ok, few hundred may be inactive atm). But surely 750 is not enough - do you have all tp's? Are they correct? Haven't you reached the max. quantity of channels of your box (eg 10000)?

If you doubt: check some tp's with king of sats or lyngsat and check if you receive all channels of this tp's.