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Multi Satellite Set-up

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  • Mobley3
    Experienced Board Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 722

    #16
    Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

    Originally posted by undegtri
    Well I've got to say a HUGE thank you to everyone who gave me advice for today I've installed a DISEqC 1.2 MOTOR on a 1M dish thats been in the Garden for probably nearly 7 years.

    I did however notice that the services seem to be much less on the motorised setup than the fixed dish I've been using. Previously I've been using a 60cm dish fixed on 13E which gave 1600 services approximately, now on the motorised system its only finding 750 services.

    Could this be down to the installation or maybe the LNB? Just as a note I've got above 85%+ signal on all satellites that I point the motorised dish to.

    As always any help would be appreciated.
    Are you sure that your 60Cm dish was only picking up signals from 13E ?
    reason I ask is that the acceptance angle of a 60Cm dish is a lot wider than that of a 1Mtr, which is much more sharply focused. you should certainly be getting more channels than the 750 you are getting so as suggested check lyngsat, flysat or king-of-sat for all the current transponder listings. Make sure that the Lnb setting is set to universal in the receiver, I presume it is a modern universal Lnb?. Are you getting both horizontal and vertical channels ?
    I am currently showing 1305 channels on 13E so yours should certainly be around the same after a scan.

    Regards Mobley3


    mobley3

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    • sideralgr
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 118

      #17
      Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

      Originally posted by bokkie
      A decent sized dish of about 1 metre should give you 13e through to 28e. Probably go with a triax as they have multi feed arms which make things a bit easier.
      I still say motorised is better though.

      I recommend the satellite dish to be at least 1,2m for this dual feed

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      • digicon
        Experienced Board Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 971

        #18
        Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

        Originally posted by sideralgr
        I recommend the satellite dish to be at least 1,2m for this dual feed

        Not really needed for a UK setup i have a Zone 2 Dish with 13°,19.2° and 28.2° working fine and that is only 60cm high by around 75cm wide

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        • Mobley3
          Experienced Board Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 722

          #19
          Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

          Originally posted by sideralgr
          I recommend the satellite dish to be at least 1,2m for this dual feed
          Maybe in Greece you would need a dish of this size but I was using an 80Cm
          with 28E, 19E, and 13E in Dublin for about 3 years with perfect results.

          Regards Mobley3


          mobley3

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          • undegtri
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 16

            #20
            Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

            Well I went back to the drawing board on the motor setup and repositioned my first satellite 1W thats now throwing a 90%+ signal, but still only 868 services on 13E. I must still be slightly out on the arch, not sure how though as the pole is 100% vertical.

            Any ideas? I have very little hair to tear out so you would be doing me a favour

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            • Mobley3
              Experienced Board Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 722

              #21
              Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

              Can you post some info on signal strength and more importantly quality on some of the
              hotbird channels ?. how did you set the dish to thor ? did you drive it to IW before you peaked it or did you rotate the motor mount around to 1W and then peak it?

              Regards Mobley3


              mobley3

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              • sideralgr
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 118

                #22
                Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                Originally posted by Mobley3
                Can you post some info on signal strength and more importantly quality on some of the
                hotbird channels ?. how did you set the dish to thor ? did you drive it to IW before you peaked it or did you rotate the motor mount around to 1W and then peak it?

                Regards Mobley3
                first you should receive signal from 1w on one lnb and after that you will place in the appropriate position the second lnb for 13e

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                • Mobley3
                  Experienced Board Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 722

                  #23
                  Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                  Originally posted by sideralgr
                  first you should receive signal from 1w on one lnb and after that you will place in the appropriate position the second lnb for 13e
                  The O/P is using a motorised dish now, you may have been caught by the thread title.

                  Regards Mobley3


                  mobley3

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                  • pan1300
                    Experienced Board Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1663

                    #24
                    Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                    Originally posted by undegtri
                    Well I went back to the drawing board on the motor setup and repositioned my first satellite 1W thats now throwing a 90%+ signal, but still only 868 services on 13E. I must still be slightly out on the arch, not sure how though as the pole is 100% vertical.

                    Any ideas? I have very little hair to tear out so you would be doing me a favour
                    hi

                    best to check with king of sats or lyngsat: do you have all transponders? all channels pro transponder ok? are the transponders correct (depends on the box: blindscan? manually enter or adjust tp's?) I'm not sure, but think I've read that the RAI channels are difficult to get -> perhaps try with this TP?

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                    • microchick
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1162

                      #25
                      Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                      Originally posted by undegtri
                      Well I went back to the drawing board on the motor setup and repositioned my first satellite 1W thats now throwing a 90%+ signal, but still only 868 services on 13E. I must still be slightly out on the arch, not sure how though as the pole is 100% vertical.

                      Any ideas? I have very little hair to tear out so you would be doing me a favour
                      No need to check transponders and frequencies. Just do a Blind Scan straight away, it will find all the channels itself if the signal is good and setting is correct.
                      If you like my post, please don't hesitate to click on "Thanks"button. Thank you

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                      • Mobley3
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 722

                        #26
                        Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                        Can you give any information on the LNB and confirm that it is a Universal type.
                        As you said that the dish had been lying in your garden for 7 years there is a possibility that it is not a universal type, this would certainly explain your lack of channels as you would be missing a lot of the frequency range and hence no amount of searching, blind or otherwise would get you the missing transponders, you really need to come back with some information on this.

                        Regards Mobley3


                        mobley3

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                        • undegtri
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 16

                          #27
                          Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                          Originally posted by Mobley3
                          Can you give any information on the LNB and confirm that it is a Universal type.
                          As you said that the dish had been lying in your garden for 7 years there is a possibility that it is not a universal type, this would certainly explain your lack of channels as you would be missing a lot of the frequency range and hence no amount of searching, blind or otherwise would get you the missing transponders, you really need to come back with some information on this.

                          Regards Mobley3
                          Cheers Mobley, I just signed on now and read your post I've swapped the LNB to an old universal Samsung one we had lying around and its picked up another 240 services on 13E, so I think it was down to the LNB. The one I was using is universal but its 0.7db I think the old one I have is 0.2db not sure if it could be this making the difference?

                          Cheers
                          UnDegTri

                          So the LNB seemed to make a difference but I've noticed that some services have 80%+ SNR but others are having difficulty getting over 60%, does anyone know what could cause this?

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                          • Mobley3
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 722

                            #28
                            Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                            The signal strength of transponders varies on all satellites due to the frequency amongst other things the same way it does with LNB's, none of them would have equal gain across all the frequency range. It is possible to get a better performance from a .3 Lnb over a .1 Lnb on a particular channel due to the fact that the lower rated one might have it's peak at the particular frequency you want to receive, hope this helps.

                            Regards Mobley3


                            mobley3

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                            • microchick
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1162

                              #29
                              Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                              The strength also depends on the tuner sensitivity. You will receive different strength for a channel with the same LNB and set up but a different receiver.
                              If you like my post, please don't hesitate to click on "Thanks"button. Thank you

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                              • McrRed
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 135

                                #30
                                Re: Multi Satellite Set-up

                                Well done, mate. It's great to hear a success story even if not everything went your way!

                                Assuming you've set your LNB skew correctly? There's guides on here if you need the info...also what receiver are you using?

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