Risks of cardsharing

[gianni253]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

are you sure that with vpn we are safe and by vpn i mean i have vpn on my computer but not sure how to even connect my satellite receiever through vpn to internet, is there a way?

Yes, I am sure, I know what I'm talking about.
A vpn, by definition, is something that you build up with "friends" and it's impossible to establish a vpn with a public cs server (always by definition).
A vpn is a private network where a unique system administrator has the control over all the hosts, their network config, their traffic etc. etc.
Internet of course is the network infrastructure that binds all that, but no one can enter this private network unless admin gives him the required credentials.
It a kind of "private club" !
Naturally, if you have a "spy" inside your vpn, security is broken and there is nothing you can do.

[vanbasten]

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thanks giann253, but does having vpn on my laptop also protect my connection from my receiver? if not is there a way to make that connection anonymous

thx

[mahrkpat]

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As an individual on your home network the only way to protect your anonymity
would be to subscribe to a proxy server. In cs VPN would only work among a
group of friends, the server and the clients would become invisible to the WAN
as to what they were doing.

[duhoki]

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thanks giann253, but does having vpn on my laptop also protect my connection from my receiver? if not is there a way to make that connection anonymous

thx

If your router support VPN then it will be for all your network, if not you have to connect your receiver to internet through your pc.

[vanbasten]

ok but only your laptop is protected if you are using a vpn correct? what about your satellite receiver? mine is connected via cable to wireless router and my laptop is connected to wifi. so i think i am exposed here even though i am using a vpn server for my internet connection

If your router support VPN then it will be for all your network, if not you have to connect your receiver to internet through your pc.

duhoki what do you mean if my router supports vpn? you mean to adjust things on the dns webpage?

[gianni253]

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Except mahrkpat who has cought well the thing, I think you all are missing a detail: if cs server is not an host taking part of "your" vpn (and a public cs server can't be, obviously), you can have a vpn router, you can have a vpn network, whatever you want, but when you connect to a public cs server you can only do it using public internet, so you are trackable.

[mahrkpat]

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VPN stands for virtual private network, so if the server is on a vpn then all
individuals have to be on the same vpn to get access to the server if you are
not then the you can't access the server.
Now if you create a vpn for your home then all the devices in your home become
invisible to the outside world but as soon as you access a server that is outside
this network say satlover for example to communicate with their server you
would have to become visible again and therefore you reveal your i.p

[Satphoenix]

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When you use cs you are defenitly trackable, but who cares?
In germany we have a law against bypassing a protection system, but they search for the uploading (in case of cs the decrypted cw) and not for the downloading (request-ecm).
But I can calm all cccam-users, the cccam protocol is encrypted so that the sniffing of the traffic is useless. The cccam on both sides change a crypt-word and the traffic only starts if the encryption works.

[vanbasten]

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When you use cs you are defenitly trackable, but who cares?
In germany we have a law against bypassing a protection system, but they search for the uploading (in case of cs the decrypted cw) and not for the downloading (request-ecm).
But I can calm all cccam-users, the cccam protocol is encrypted so that the sniffing of the traffic is useless. The cccam on both sides change a crypt-word and the traffic only starts if the encryption works.

if i understand you accurately, what you are saying is that we, the cccams users, need not worry about being traced and there is no need to use a vpn to try to hide ourselves, if that is the case i will stop using vpn since it decreases my internet speed considerably

[pan1300]

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if i understand you accurately, what you are saying is that we, the cccams users, need not worry about being traced and there is no need to use a vpn to try to hide ourselves, if that is the case i will stop using vpn since it decreases my internet speed considerably

hi again vanbasten

I agree with Satphoenix: also here (Belgium) the uploads are seareched after, and less the downloads. As I've already said somewhere and sometime before: I don't say you don't need to worry (but hey: no risk no fun , but it isn't that easy to track all 'cccam-client' users down - needs some big cooperation between the providers and the government, which isn't that easy, also there are soms laws about privacy ...

And I admit vpn slows everything down a lot (personal experience).