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  • Curiositykilledthecat
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 11

    Re: Risks of cardsharing

    Originally posted by faceoff04
    depends of the country, the law is not restrictive. The ip directions of connectios cccam, for example: itīs a bidirectional information. Under know risk of server and cliente.
    In UK, I have never heard about it till recently, and I have been asked about it to. Like many people the major concern would be getting caught. So if it is bidirectional it is next to impossible?

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    • faceoff04
      Newbie
      • Mar 2013
      • 5

      Re: Risks of cardsharing

      Originally posted by Curiositykilledthecat
      Hello Everybody.

      Mainly for UK users.

      Is it possible to track down the people who pay for the illegal subscription of card sharing?


      Also what would be the best method to pay for it?
      Pay for cardsharing itīs ILEGAL.
      To make insternal cardsharing with a personal subscription itīs LEGAL

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      • Curiositykilledthecat
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 11

        Re: Risks of cardsharing

        Originally posted by mahrkpat
        Welcome to the forum.
        You should have used your first post to introduce yourself and secondly you
        should have read this thread from the beginning it would have answered your
        questions.

        I have read the first few pages, but after reading posts three years old, perhaps there may have been changes since.

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        • vanbasten
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 165

          Re: Risks of cardsharing

          How can they trace your tv for cardsharing? i mean the satellite sends signals to every receiver so i dont see how you can trace people?

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          • Curiositykilledthecat
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 11

            Re: Risks of cardsharing

            Originally posted by vanbasten
            How can they trace your tv for cardsharing? i mean the satellite sends signals to every receiver so i dont see how you can trace people?
            Surely they could find people using cardsharing through IP addresses or through payments by using the likes of paypal?

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            • bokkie
              Experienced Board Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1561

              Re: Risks of cardsharing

              They don't trace your tv, they trace your ip address.
              Remember you need an active internet connection for cs.

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              • vanbasten
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 165

                Re: Risks of cardsharing

                you mean they trace all the ips that are connected to that server? but dont they need to have an access to the main server to be able to trace you?

                and how serious is this problem? do you know anyone being locked for this?

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                • Satphoenix
                  Experienced Board Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 999

                  Re: Risks of cardsharing

                  In germany they caught a cardsharing-ring half a year ago.
                  It was a pay server and it was reported that they only caught the server holder, not the users.
                  If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans!

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                  • besit
                    Board Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 343

                    Re: Risks of cardsharing

                    Sure it's able to investigate almost every computer crime. IP address is unique , it's possible to get provider's logs and to trace the user. But it's possible that price of an investigation will be too high to perform such investigation. And for sure nobody will try to catch a man watching TV via sharing. What for? A caught person could say he doesn't know what "sharing-mosharing", he bought this box from gypcies to watch football, and doesn't understand what's his fault? So don't worry. Risks of cardsharing are risks of card sharing providers, not users.

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                    • vanbasten
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 165

                      Re: Risks of cardsharing

                      is there a real danger or case in which users were charged?

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                      • Curiositykilledthecat
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 11

                        Re: Risks of cardsharing

                        I suppose if you want to stamp it out, you go for the place where it is happening. Going for the user isn't going to solve any of the problems I suppose. But if the server operator was found, could they not trace the end users through payments through Paypal - that seems to be a common payment method.

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                        • vanbasten
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 165

                          Re: Risks of cardsharing

                          Originally posted by besit
                          Sure it's able to investigate almost every computer crime. IP address is unique , it's possible to get provider's logs and to trace the user. But it's possible that price of an investigation will be too high to perform such investigation. And for sure nobody will try to catch a man watching TV via sharing. What for? A caught person could say he doesn't know what "sharing-mosharing", he bought this box from gypcies to watch football, and doesn't understand what's his fault? So don't worry. Risks of cardsharing are risks of card sharing providers, not users.
                          is it possible to hide your ip address if you are using a vpn server?

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                          • gianni253
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 903

                            Re: Risks of cardsharing

                            Using a vpn is 100% safe because all traffic is encrypted with the the strongest algorithms.
                            On the contrary, if the network is not encrypted, tracing can be done in many ways: if you control a client than you get the ip of the server; if you control the server, you can get the ip of all the clients.
                            Theoretically some random sniffing can be done on the net to intercept connections between client and server (and so getting both ip addresses).
                            But in real world, risk of cs is not higher than taking a walk on the seaside.
                            So mates .. go on sharing ... with good peace of mind ...

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                            • duhoki
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 876

                              Re: Risks of cardsharing

                              You can never hide you 100% becouse of the way internet is working, but with vpn and proxy servers, you will level up your hiding capability from being catch to easy.

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                              • besit
                                Board Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 343

                                Re: Risks of cardsharing

                                Theoretically it's able to trace everything.
                                Example
                                You make a crime.
                                They find out an ip from what crime is performed. It's anonymous proxy's ip. They know the time of crime. They ask anonymous proxy admin for logs. Admins deny. They investigate where this server is. Ask provider to cooperate. Provider givers contacts of admins. They force admins to cooperate (money, violence, etc) They have logs, They have IP, and so far with this template. At last they know you street address. They come and arrest you.
                                But.
                                You can see that it's a very very hard work and if your crime is like Wikileaks or money transfer from the bank or Pentagon network intrusion, they may start to work it out. If it's all about some boy watching football in Bulgaria, no one will make nothing to prevent this.

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