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Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

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  • anacondama
    Banned
    • Jul 2010
    • 865

    Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

    The pictures into Green Frame are for Original DM 800 and ones into Red Frame are for the Clone.
    it's very difficulte to make the difference ... so be aware!
    look at the attachments:
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  • Resident
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 151

    #2
    Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

    Hypothetical questions but is there anyone who would actually buy an original dm800 or dm500? I really don't think that people buy the original versions of these boxes.

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    • satman72
      Experienced Board Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 3550

      #3
      Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

      Is right, original DM are so expensives, it's out of world their prices, you should to pay for a DM 800HD more then 400 Euros. It is crazy, I'm sure their cost in China (where all are produced) is less then 70 Euros. Anyway I've posted a tool for the DM sim, if you've dubts on your DM use it to check the sim into your box, it is the only real difference from an original box.
      Here the link for the tool:
      _http://www.satlover.com/forum/dreambox-clones/13049-tool-for-sim-v1-0-2-0x-ferrari-original-fix-clone-copy.html
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      • runmo
        Experienced Board Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 6120

        #4
        Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

        the latest db 800 clone version made in chine is solded less than 200 euro (shipment included)
        So the biggest difference between original db800 and clone is without doubt the price

        regards
        runmo

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        • satman72
          Experienced Board Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 3550

          #5
          Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

          Originally posted by runmo
          the latest db 800 clone version made in chine is solded less than 200 euro (shipment included)

          regards
          runmo
          So with price of one original box you'll have 2 clones and some money will rest in your pockets. I think success of DM is all based on sharing, but now also other boxes are able to handle cccam and other emu DM has non chances to sell boxes at those prices. I've seen a DM 8000 price, it is around 1000 Euros! I've spent less to buy my new Plasma TV and it has also sat HD receiver enclosed! Also video quality of all DM is not good like a cheap Azbox, if you've a full HD TV you'll see the difference.
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          • anacondama
            Banned
            • Jul 2010
            • 865

            #6
            Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

            i'm pro with the question of price ,but is it the same withe the problems signal lost,high temperature,gemeni virus ( if still for the E2) ... so i think buying an original box than having problems with the clone ... Personal point of view

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            • satman72
              Experienced Board Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 3550

              #7
              Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

              Originally posted by anacondama
              i'm pro with the question of price ,but is it the same withe the problems signal lost,high temperature,gemeni virus ( if still for the E2) ... so i think buying an original box than having problems with the clone ... Personal point of view
              One point you say is right, time bomb, but you can fix it anyway are there many tools now for sims. The hardware most of clones is the same of original, DM are made in China, also originals, most of clones are made from same factories that works for DM. For temperature clones has fun on cpu, just to avoid high temperatures, many owners of originals has installed it exernally, just because box was crashing when hot. For tuners, those are just the same into latest clones, tuners is thirty part production.
              I don't like clones like concept, but DM is not honest to sell a simply sat receiver HD for more then 400 Euros, I've payed my Azbox with DVB-T tuner around 250 Euros and it reads alot of media too, has ******* and many other things. At least it has a really good video chip, it is the only that allows you to have a real HD signal from HDMI connector (1080p). I think untill DM will continue to sell his products at double price of their real value, clones will be on market.
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              • Jerry2020
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 221

                #8
                Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                Originally posted by satman72
                Also video quality of all DM is not good like a cheap Azbox, if you've a full HD TV you'll see the difference.
                So even HD versions don't have good quality?
                Do you know how good are they compared to cuberevo?

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                • satman72
                  Experienced Board Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 3550

                  #9
                  Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                  Originally posted by Jerry2020
                  So even HD versions don't have good quality?
                  Do you know how good are they compared to cuberevo?
                  Yes also HD versions are not good like Azbox, for this reason the video chipset into DM HD boxes is one of cheapest video chip, it is not capable to handle full HD resolution (1080p) but just HD ready (1080i). The Azbox is the only box that has Sigma processor, it is a dedicate chip for HD (full) so it is the only receiver capable to give you a real HD signal on HDMI exit. The same chip is used into Popcorn Hour or WD TV Live. It is also good to read MKV files to max HD resolution. I don't know cubarevo, but it don't has the Sigma processor like Azbox, if you watch into cubarevo specs you'll see his max resolution is 1080i.
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                  • zoran89
                    Experienced Board Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1618

                    #10
                    Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                    Originally posted by satman72
                    Yes also HD versions are not good like Azbox, for this reason the video chipset into DM HD boxes is one of cheapest video chip, it is not capable to handle full HD resolution (1080p) but just HD ready (1080i). The Azbox is the only box that has Sigma processor, it is a dedicate chip for HD (full) so it is the only receiver capable to give you a real HD signal on HDMI exit. The same chip is used into Popcorn Hour or WD TV Live. It is also good to read MKV files to max HD resolution. I don't know cubarevo, but it don't has the Sigma processor like Azbox, if you watch into cubarevo specs you'll see his max resolution is 1080i.

                    HD redy is 720p not 1080i, and none provider doesnt play 1080p all of them play 1080i for full hd.

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                    • runmo
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 6120

                      #11
                      Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                      Does the AZBOX work with cccam?

                      regards
                      runmo

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                      • zoran89
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1618

                        #12
                        Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                        Of course it works with cccam.

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                        • satman72
                          Experienced Board Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 3550

                          #13
                          Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                          Originally posted by zoran89
                          HD redy is 720p not 1080i, and none provider doesnt play 1080p all of them play 1080i for full hd.
                          720p and 1080i are same resolution for HD, many feeds are 1080p, so just with Azbox you can watch those.

                          Originally posted by runmo
                          Does the AZBOX work with cccam?

                          regards
                          runmo
                          It works with cccam, newcamd protocols. Both at same time.
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                          • zoran89
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 1618

                            #14
                            Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                            Originally posted by satman72
                            720p and 1080i are same resolution for HD, many feeds are 1080p, so just with Azbox you can watch those.
                            No they are not same resolution 720p is 720p and 1080i is actualy flickering 540p

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                            • Resident
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 151

                              #15
                              Re: Difference Between DM800 (Original and Clone)

                              1080i is the shorthand name for a format of high-definition video modes. 1080 denotes the number of horizontal scan lines—also known as vertical resolution—and the letter i stands for interlaced. In the alternate format of high-definition video mode, known as 1080p, the p would stand for progressive scan.[1][2] With interlaced video, two fields flash back and forth quickly to simulate a full frame. Thus, a 1080i image has two 1920 X 540 fields that are combined to simulate a 1920 X 1080 image. This has been a source of confusion as it is sometimes claimed[citation needed] that 1080i is actually equivalent to 540p. On the contrary, A 540p image has 960 X 540 pixels.

                              Source wikipedia.

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