The evolution of Windows from its beginnings to date

[cgac99]

Re: The evolution of Windows from its beginnings to date

I still on Vista for the moment, but i would like to try Win 8 , but i wonder, can i use a classic interface with start menu , and does the mail system compatible with the storage files of windows mail or they use another kind of mail ?
I ask cause i had a pain in the ass when i switch from Outlook express to Windows Mail , can't make read my previous folders on windows mail.

[besit]

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[QUOTE=joseram2000;270678]Whoever says that xp the best, tell me one piece of hardware is auqnue benefits of minimal support for windows xp?, Ninguno.Seamos serious, who works today with fewer benefits w95 asking, but where we get drivers?, evolution makes sense for new technologies and economically for people to renew their pc's[/QUOTE]

Win95 was a revolution. Win95 OSR2 was a long time stable release. I hated to move to 98 but had to do it because win95 has no USB support. Nothing more good was in 98 comparing to 95. NT was a parallel technology. NT-2k - very stable, but useless for multimedia purposes. XP was a revolution. It was a mix of win98 and NT technology. It fulfilled all needs of home and office use. Service pack 3 made it very stable. Dubious service pack 3 at last become usable. XP become an almost supreme OS.
And now tell me, what was the reason to move to vista? Ugly design, higher hardware requirements... No wonder people ignored it. Main features of win7 are AHCI support and directX 10-and higher. But if one's hands are grown from proper place AHCI support it's easy to turn on on XP. If I was a player, maybe I'd say something good about win 7 and directX11, but I don't play modern games. Last I played was Crysis, but I'd say it runs perfectly on XP with unofficial dx10.

And I'm absolutely sure, that XP much more suitable OS to watch digital TV
- XP wakes up and falls asleep much faster then win7
- win7 doesn't support WDM drivers for technisat cards, so these cards are unusable in win7
- directX11 is useless for DTV, anyway DVB and movie players (best ones) need directx9 june 2010 even if dx11 is installed.
- 3GB memory limit is not an XP issue, but 32 bit OS issue. win7 32 has absolutely no preferences comparing to XP in memory usage. By the way, almost all apps for windows are 32bit and they won't eat more then 2GB for a process, so there's no need of 64 bit windows for now.

As for win8, it already shown some funny issues. We have problems with cisco VPN client, with printing system. My people lost half a day trying to find out how to shut win8 down. And I found that it's harder to launch win32 app on win8 64bit then on Ubuntu 64bit with Wine.:eek:

[benchsirius]

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I find Windows 7 starts as fast as XP on my new system but that is with an SSD so it is very hard to tell which system boots faster. The XP I have is 32bit , the Win7 64bit, so it isn't a fair test. Can you not put your win7 in compatibility mode or run a virtual machine to emulate xp for your technisat cards?

[bonilla]

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Windows is going to push more and more the microsoft market...
Microsoft executives have acknowledged publicly that the Windows team is aware that the first-party apps on Windows 8 and Windows RT have room for improvement. Many users have been especially disappointed in the Mail and Music apps for the product, claiming they feel more like betas than full-featured, polished products. Even though they're free, these apps, developed by the Windows team, just aren't very good, many of us Windows 8/Windows RT users feel. (The Windows 8/Windows RT apps built by the Bing AppEx team, on the other hand, have been quite solid and usable.
Microsoft is expected to deliver another set of major updates to all its core apps when it rolls out the Blue update for Windows 8 and Windows RT late this summer.

It seems that music will be a nice target for them.:)

[mahrkpat]

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The beta version of the new OS from MS, Windows Blue, has been leaked onto
the internet comment has been made that at the moment it is not much of an
upgrade from Win 8 but only time will tell what else MS are going to add has it
progresses towards a release.

Take a first look here:__http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KAxXX0m-P_0

[duhoki]

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I bet it is one of the microsoft self-leaked :d

[benchsirius]

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According to another site , the kernel number has been released as 6.3 ,which should mean it is still on the vista/7/8 path. It will ship with IE11 and will be cheaper still than Windows 8. Microsoft want a 64bit only version but this is unlikely to happen as most tablets are 32bit.
All rumours and deliberately leaked for sure.

[bonilla]

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The next step for windows is in trouble.
RT and blue are not going to merge according to this press article :)
[QUOTE]It's not clear what merging RT into Blue means exactly. Microsoft has been equally cryptic about what Windows Blue is, saying only that Microsoft is working "on plans to advance our devices and services, a set of plans referred to internally as 'Blue.'"
Although the PC supply chain had pushed the Windows on ARM (WoA) platform aggressively, the Windows RT's name, which has misled most consumers into believing that the operating system is able to support all existing x86 Windows programs...the lack of apps, as well as compatibility issues have all significantly damaged demand.
[/QUOTE]
Well, the evolution of Windows product should be in standby since they didn't choose really what target they want (like Apple or like Linux)

[parsonline]

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its right that windows 64bit have speedly but unfortunately thet are so incompatible with many software and also they are problem with many hardware.i suggest use 32bit

[mahrkpat]

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I think the trouble with Windows RT is the size and the price it was set at, it
raised expectations that people would be getting the full windows package in
the form of a slate and what they ended up getting is a windows where you could
not use legacy software and had to use windows stores to get apps from.
They included Office but even that was a cut down version where there were
no add ons and if you wanted to use it for business you had to pay for a licence.:eek:

I know MS won't be listening to me:D but what I would have done would be to have
Windows RT placed at the budget end of the market ( 7 inch tabs) and
priced it accordingly, marketing would be targeted at stating that they would be
getting the familiar windows experience on a tab without it being for business
use therefore people would be expecting less and not think MS were tricking
them.:rolleyes:

[bonilla]

Re: The evolution of Windows from its beginnings to date

[QUOTE=mahrkpat;272081]I think the trouble with Windows RT is the size and the price it was set at, it
raised expectations that people would be getting the full windows package in
the form of a slate and what they ended up getting is a windows where you could
not use legacy software and had to use windows stores to get apps from.
They included Office but even that was a cut down version where there were
no add ons and if you wanted to use it for business you had to pay for a licence.:eek:

I know MS won't be listening to me:D but what I would have done would be to have
Windows RT placed at the budget end of the market ( 7 inch tabs) and
priced it accordingly, marketing would be targeted at stating that they would be
getting the familiar windows experience on a tab without it being for business
use therefore people would be expecting less and not think MS were tricking
them.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

They still target major companies to use their products. They buy licences every year and if they drop their price for RT ,benefits wont be as high as they expected.
Windows has to be more integrated to next gen support, like the new XBOX 720 or new windows phone. They started with sharing file,printers since windows XP and they continue to put common things in every new OS (like metro on windows 8 / windows phone and...new OS for the XBOX 720.)
I agree with that strategy :)

[benchsirius]

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The advantage of RT or even a locked Windows 9 for Microsoft is surely the opportunity to run it's own equivalent of google play store or amazon apps store for kindle. This will counter the loss of revenue of cheap prices .

[mahrkpat]

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I think someone at MS is on satlovers forums yesterday I was suggesting MS try
Win RT on a 7 inch tab and guess what is todays news.:eek:

__http://bgr.com/2013/03/29/microsoft-windows-7-inch-tablets-403103/?utm_source=trending-widget&utm_medium=home

__http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/29/microsoft-relaxes-windows-8-resolution-rule/

[benchsirius]

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Toms Hardware are suggesting a $40 license fee , but I think that is far too expensive, it would push a basic tablet costing £70 to £100 and put it in competition with far superior Android tablets, therefore I think the license cost will in reality be far less and will be a completely locked version.

[benchsirius]

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Techeye have suggested that rather than get Sp for free , there may be small regular updates for a micropayment similar to the Apple OS model.