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  • pan1300
    Experienced Board Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1663

    #16
    Re: server located in germany -> secure??

    Originally posted by moFu
    or who uses proxys vpn to connect to?
    I do, sometimes (depends on the laptop and where I am)

    edited: my fault, just had problems with my vpn, is for work/internet - has nothing to do with the sats.

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    • duhoki
      Experienced Board Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 876

      #17
      Re: server located in germany -> secure??

      Well that store who sold pirat tv was offcource closed and all the electronic taken by the police. We are talking about thousands of people wh had subscribed to this store and the police here in Norway(word richest in the world) have some police that only have money to pay the parking and speed ticket police department. So the police didn't do anything big against all the clients but the store owners was arrested and probably other sanction. But when the anti pirat tv organization here in Norway caught smaller cs community the police investigate, find the clients who used the cs community and give them a ticket of 2000$+. So here in Norway and probably other places in the world, it is not a good idea to grow a big cs community.

      PST!! i was not a subscriber of that store

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      • microchick
        Experienced Board Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 1162

        #18
        Re: server located in germany -> secure??

        Its good to hear that you were not involved, duhoki. I never knew that there is a anti pirate tv organisation in action in Norway. I always thought that there is no law about the CS in the European Union and they stil use the Anti Piracy law for CS.
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        • duhoki
          Experienced Board Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 876

          #19
          Re: server located in germany -> secure??

          When the tv providers lose millions of money then this is what happens. Here in nordic it is almost only viasat and canal digital nordic inn use and when cs community grows big and they lose more and more legal subscriber, then they will create organization like this. I think this organization was not started by Norway but by Sweden as both canal digital nordic and viasat is owned by them. On their website(****** stop nordic) there is info about every time they caught cs community. So this organization is for nordic TV-industry in Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland to stop piracy.

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          • microchick
            Experienced Board Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 1162

            #20
            Re: server located in germany -> secure??

            I won't be surprised if sly uk has started some organisation like this. They have got about 8 million customers at the moment but its very expensive if you go for sports and movies in HD. They are losing lots of money via cs and soon or later they will introduce something. I think the first thing they introduce, they will start scanning their own broadband's (sly broadband) customers.
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            • bokkie
              Experienced Board Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1561

              #21
              Re: server located in germany -> secure??

              I was a sly broadband subscriber but have now changed.
              I didn't want to take the chance as that is something they would keep an eye out for.

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              • duhoki
                Experienced Board Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 876

                #22
                Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                True..... I can think of something like a filter that shows all the broadband users who is talking to a specified server like satlover, and caught those users white some fancy law they make from no wear.

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                • pan1300
                  Experienced Board Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1663

                  #23
                  Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                  Originally posted by bokkie
                  I was a sly broadband subscriber but have now changed.
                  I didn't want to take the chance as that is something they would keep an eye out for.
                  hi bokkie

                  sad but true ; never thought of that (same here but other country/satprovider - we'll probably stay forever in their database as (former) clients/users)

                  Nothing we can do about it

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                  • microchick
                    Experienced Board Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1162

                    #24
                    Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                    about a year ago virginmedia sent letters to all its subscribers to not to do file sharing otherwise their connection will be cut off. A few colleagues of mine got the same letter. They replied back to virgin saying that what else they can do with an over priced 100mb download speed and unlimited downloads. Never heard back from Virgin, LOL
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                    • bokkie
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1561

                      #25
                      Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                      Yes that is true. If you're not filesharing what are you going to do with a 100mb broadband speed?
                      I have 30mb and it is more than enough to stream hd content, etc.
                      They have actually blocked a few filesharing websites!

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                      • microchick
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1162

                        #26
                        Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                        Originally posted by duhoki
                        True..... I can think of something like a filter that shows all the broadband users who is talking to a specified server like satlover, and caught those users white some fancy law they make from no wear.
                        I think the monitoring will be easy for a specific ISP, they can just see a 24/7 connection (exchange of data) to a specific ip somewhere in the far east or africa and then just try to filter similar traffic.
                        Thats why its the best way, if you are not using it then switch it off. Don't leave it in Stand by.
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                        • pan1300
                          Experienced Board Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1663

                          #27
                          Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                          agree, but I always deactivate the server (also safe, easier for me - can be done by the Remote Control) and when I think about it I even put in on a FTA channel before putting on standby. Just in case ...

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                          • bokkie
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1561

                            #28
                            Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                            I do the same. I leave both tuners on fta and I have my stb go into deep standby automatically after the epg has populated every night.

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                            • moFu
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 126

                              #29
                              Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                              not ok for me to turn always off / on cam ... also shutdown the box is not a practicable opinion for me, maybe i should set the timer

                              But it still does nothing of the fact that youre connected to the server (ok, not so often if you turn off box). and the server could be unsecure, no one knows .....

                              degree trying to find a anonymous proxy, then set only one route for the stb to get over. probably little bit tricky.
                              easyier would be if in newer oscam versions wourld be a proxy interface integrated which would lead only server connection over the proxy...
                              would cause no problems with hbbtv and so on..

                              somebody experienced???

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                              • bokkie
                                Experienced Board Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 1561

                                #30
                                Re: server located in germany -> secure??

                                If you change to fta channel you are not connected to the server.
                                So doing that and shutdown you should be ok.

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