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Spiderbox Owners Chat!

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  • toby69
    Experienced Board Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 4198

    Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

    just thought i would post this, i use a spider7000.

    as we all talking about lines here and there, i found that if you have too many lines, (that was in my box)>8 lines i had.
    problems opening chns, especially hd, cure was that i removed 5 lines, now only using 3, chns now open in seconds.
    so best not to be greedy, too many lines causes a lot of confliction, a couple of good ones is all you require, thats what i found anyway.
    comments welcome.
    toby
    Do not send me iptv/cline requests,

    technical or iptv/cline server questions in PM!

    I will not answer!

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    • pan1300
      Experienced Board Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 1663

      Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

      hi toby

      I completely agree with you on this (think posted before, but don't remember in which topic it was) - anyhow: my findings were best result with only 1 or 2 lines active - further: I suppose this goes for receivers in general (not only spiderboxes - I even don't have one ).

      ps: this was in combination with an active freeserver of the box itself (don't know how to deactivate this with internet/server on).

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      • thecrazybandit
        Experienced Board Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 768

        Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

        Originally posted by Mobley3
        I do not think you can M8, I seem to remember several occasions when this question was asked on the A***t forum and usually the same answer, that it was not possible, wish it was and hopefully someone will find a way.

        Regards Mobley3
        Very strange i do not normally use cw keys but i thought i would give it a go but i could not find any were to enter them

        Originally posted by toby69
        just thought i would post this, i use a spider7000.

        as we all talking about lines here and there, i found that if you have too many lines, (that was in my box)>8 lines i had.
        problems opening chns, especially hd, cure was that i removed 5 lines, now only using 3, chns now open in seconds.
        so best not to be greedy, too many lines causes a lot of confliction, a couple of good ones is all you require, thats what i found anyway.
        comments welcome.
        toby
        I find that the spiderbox works better for me with 1 n line and 2 c lines any more than this and it becomes unwatchable with lots of glitches

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        • empb
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 52

          Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

          Originally posted by thecrazybandit
          Does anybody know how to enter cw keys in the hd9000 i can enter biss and any other type of keys but i cannot find were to enter cw in any of the setting
          Originally posted by Mobley3
          I do not think you can M8, I seem to remember several occasions when this question was asked on the A***t forum and usually the same answer, that it was not possible, wish it was and hopefully someone will find a way.

          Regards Mobley3
          You can put CWs into a Fausto key.bin (same format as Diablo CAM) and run them to your Spiderbox with Newcamd (Fausto as Newcamd Server on your PC and the Spiderbox as the Client) eg:

          In Fausto in the "FaustoServers.cfg" file which is opened under the Server TAB/Configuration TAB. Enter a line like:

          N: ***.X.X.X 25000 0102030405060708091011121314 {CAID/PROVID}

          and one like:

          U: username password

          Where ***.X.X.X is the IP Address of your PC

          and CAID is the Conditional Access ID eg 0963 Sky UK (as per the Sky Active CWs that were active earlier today)

          and PROVID is the Provider ID eg 000000 (as per the Sky Active CWs that were active earlier today)

          username is the username you want

          and password is the password you want

          (it would be CAID 0100, PROVID 000068 for Cyfra+ in Mediaguard, you can usually find lists of CAIDs/PROVIDs if you look around)

          also be sure to put a "# " ("hash & a space" in the examples you don't want in the FaustoServers.cfg file)

          Save the FaustoServers.cfg
          Then start the Fausto Client (Again under Server TAB on Fausto there is the Manager TAB, Load and Start).

          On your Spiderbox on the accessory menu select Network go into Client Set up and set a Newcamd account with the same info:

          Type: NEWCAMD
          Name or IP Address: ***.X.X.X
          Port: 25000
          ID: username
          Password: password
          DES Key: 0102030405060708091011121314
          and Apply

          Not perfect, and sometimes you have to highlight the Active CW in Fausto under the CW TAB and click Fixed CW on the main Fausto Monitor menu, but works.
          "It's All Good"
          My Kit: Technomate TM7102HD-T2, Spiderbox HD9000, Humax HDCI2000 - Triax Motorised NW UK Ku-Band: 53E - 30W, C-Band: 3.3E,11W. Sky Broadband, Fausto User, Various CAMs, Sky & UPC Direct Cards.

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          • Mobley3
            Experienced Board Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 722

            Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

            Thank you for that info empb, very interesting. I believe that what thecrazybandit meant was inputting them directly into the box, but this is certainly a work-around that is worth looking at.

            Regards Mobley3


            mobley3

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            • thecrazybandit
              Experienced Board Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 768

              Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

              Originally posted by empb
              You can put CWs into a Fausto key.bin (same format as Diablo CAM) and run them to your Spiderbox with Newcamd (Fausto as Newcamd Server on your PC and the Spiderbox as the Client) eg:

              In Fausto in the "FaustoServers.cfg" file which is opened under the Server TAB/Configuration TAB. Enter a line like:

              N: ***.X.X.X 25000 0102030405060708091011121314 {CAID/PROVID}

              and one like:

              U: username password

              Where ***.X.X.X is the IP Address of your PC

              and CAID is the Conditional Access ID eg 0963 Sky UK (as per the Sky Active CWs that were active earlier today)

              and PROVID is the Provider ID eg 000000 (as per the Sky Active CWs that were active earlier today)

              username is the username you want

              and password is the password you want

              (it would be CAID 0100, PROVID 000068 for Cyfra+ in Mediaguard, you can usually find lists of CAIDs/PROVIDs if you look around)

              also be sure to put a "# " ("hash & a space" in the examples you don't want in the FaustoServers.cfg file)

              Save the FaustoServers.cfg
              Then start the Fausto Client (Again under Server TAB on Fausto there is the Manager TAB, Load and Start).

              On your Spiderbox on the accessory menu select Network go into Client Set up and set a Newcamd account with the same info:

              Type: NEWCAMD
              Name or IP Address: ***.X.X.X
              Port: 25000
              ID: username
              Password: password
              DES Key: 0102030405060708091011121314
              and Apply

              Not perfect, and sometimes you have to highlight the Active CW in Fausto under the CW TAB and click Fixed CW on the main Fausto Monitor menu, but works.
              I was looking a direct way to enter cw keys straight in to the spiderbox i have i tried the diablo with cw keys and they work fine but i do find i have a few conflicts some times so i stopped using it

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              • redhezuk
                Experienced Board Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 900

                Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                Originally posted by thecrazybandit
                I was looking a direct way to enter cw keys straight in to the spiderbox i have i tried the diablo with cw keys and they work fine but i do find i have a few conflicts some times so i stopped using it
                You can't enter cw keys into the Spiderbox only BISS keys will work.

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                • loadedboyuk
                  Newbie
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 3

                  Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                  Hello people

                  I have a little issue, trying to write Clines via a txt file on USB, I save the file to usb, select file from usb menu, confirm the config yes/no question but when I check the client set-up screen the c-line have not updated. I have a SB9000HD-Combo.

                  Any advice would be great

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                  • cannydo
                    Board Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 213

                    Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                    Your file has to be in the cfg format not txt What I do is save it as a txt file on your computer, then go to it and rename it to a cfg file. Here is an example "CCcam.txt" when renamed becomes "CCcam.cfg" it should enter your spidy no problem in this format.

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                    • pan1300
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1663

                      Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                      hi loadedboyuk

                      I'm not sure about the Spiders, but some boxes need to be restarted to get the cline active/connected

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                      • thecrazybandit
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 768

                        Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                        yes you are correct reboot the spider after entering "CCcam.cfg" and they should work ok

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                        • Archmage
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 42

                          Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                          I did a reset to factory default on my SD5000, but now I can't get out of the setup screens
                          Pressing exit gets me out of the sub menus but no further back, I have no idea what to do now, can anyone help?

                          Oh the joys of not having a manual!
                          I worked out that you have to have a channel list installed.

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                          • Archmage
                            Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 42

                            Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                            I suppose it makes sense, if you don't have a channel list then what are you going to exit to?
                            I did the reset because I wanted to get rid of the channel list! It was full up with stuff I will never watch and I couldn't scan anything. I have no idea how to move the dish without the list or delete the channels I don't want, so I have a lot of playing to do.
                            In the meantime, does anyone know a link to a channel list that might include the channels on the Satlover server?
                            If there are any other SD5000 users here could you please post what patches etc you are using, I would appreciate knowing what works properly.

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                            • pan1300
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1663

                              Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                              Originally posted by Archmage
                              ... In the meantime, does anyone know a link to a channel list that might include the channels on the Satlover server?
                              hi Archmage

                              Personally, I have a bit of bad experiences with using another one's channellist - I used it on some boxes (no spiders tbh) to compare with what I want, but I really believe it's better to make your own channellist - can save you a lot of trouble and headache afterwards

                              ps sorry to interfere here, without owning one of them

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                              • Archmage
                                Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 42

                                Re: Spiderbox Owners Chat!

                                If I knew how to make a channel list I would have done it already, I am trying to work out how to do it now.
                                The problem with the Spiderbox is that when everything worked, it just worked, you didn't need to know anything.
                                TBH I don't know how to look at a satellite that isn't on my channel list yet, and that also means I can't use the lines on here because I don't know what Satellite to go to .

                                PS. I don't mind you interfering! I will accept help from any source!

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