The Myth of HDMI cables

[digicon]

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That should not actually be true seeing as HDMI transfers a pure digital signal (millions of 101010101010) that is why so called more expensive HDMI that so called use thicker copper and so forth are not needed

[microchick]

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Its not only the cables which are made in China. Most of the Electrical stuff is Made in China. Have a look at the back of your Laptop If its not Samsung then the possibility will be that its a Chinese made. Its not about the Chinese stuff. Its all about the Quality, Cheap cables have low quality and expensive ones have better quality. The structure would be the same and it will work fine too as long as its a newer version. I wouldn't want to spend £60 for a HDMI cable.

[Mobley3]

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I would have agreed with you in the good old days of analogue, I too have been in various positions with the A/V industry for over 30 years, and i can tell you now i own Ixos HDMI cables that cost roughly around £60 each and have the cheap Sky ones that come with the HD receivers and there is absolutely no difference at all between them.

I know exactly what you are saying and in theory within the digital domain there should not be any differences between items, unfortunately this is not always true. Just before I replied to you I did a confirmation test with my Blu-Ray player and 2 different HDMI cables using the Cars Blu-Ray disc and there is no doubt in my mind that my Monster Cable was better by some margin. I suppose at the end of the day if people are happy that they are getting an acceptable level of enjoyment from their system then good for them. I once gave a work mate a Scart cable to use instead of the RF out from his Video Recorder and he said that he could not see any difference.
Regards Mobley

[scooterman]

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That should not actually be true seeing as HDMI transfers a pure digital signal (millions of 101010101010) that is why so called more expensive HDMI that so called use thicker copper and so forth are not needed

Your right bro i was thinking analogue and scart cables ,digital equipment is less susceptible to emf fields.

[microchick]

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Its not only about the thicker copper cable. Its all about the gold plating. Gold is the BEST conductor at room temperature. But it's value lies in its ability to resist corrosion. This can be a critical factor under certain conditions. We find gold plating on circuit board edge connectors and on the pins and sockets of IC's that plug in as well as on cables like those used in A/V setups. The gold plating, which is only a few atoms thick, makes for pretty much worry free connections.

[scooterman]

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Electrons flow on the surface of a conductor to give more conductivity they only need to gold plate and the added advantage is less corrosion for good connection.

[microchick]

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And therefore the HDMI cables with gold plating are expensive. The chinese made HDMI cables don't actually have gold plating and therefore you can buy them on fleabay for a quid or so.

[digicon]

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I know exactly what you are saying and in theory within the digital domain there should not be any differences between items, unfortunately this is not always true. Just before I replied to you I did a confirmation test with my Blu-Ray player and 2 different HDMI cables using the Cars Blu-Ray disc and there is no doubt in my mind that my Monster Cable was better by some margin. I suppose at the end of the day if people are happy that they are getting an acceptable level of enjoyment from their system then good for them. I once gave a work mate a Scart cable to use instead of the RF out from his Video Recorder and he said that he could not see any difference.
Regards Mobley

Its not just me head over to avforums been a member there for years there are hundreds of members all agree that big brands like Ixos ,monster ,chord company that are suppose to be better is marketing hype.

The first and foremost thing to do for anyone is to have there display calibrated correctly for there own viewing environment, then you could do a comparable test to see which is best as for blu ray players its the same for receivers not all use the same components so dither again, you did a test on a 40" i could brag and say that my 59" D6900 that is calibrated and has a Sly HDMI cable coming from my home built HTPC which uses an Nvidia GTX 680 card with an i7 processor onboard which to build cost around nearly 10 times the average price of a Sony Blu ray player, i wont go on but you get my drift my point being is the Sly HDMI should by all accounts not be Full 1080p active 3D compatible but it handles it with ease and that cable was free, I sold the Ixos on due to the fact that i knew deep down i only wanted to spend on decent cables due to the cost of the system well for me that does not apply anymore.

[Mobley3]

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Its not just me head over to avforums been a member there for years there are hundreds of members all agree that big brands like Ixos ,monster ,chord company that are suppose to be better is marketing hype.

The first and foremost thing to do for anyone is to have there display calibrated correctly for there own viewing environment, then you could do a comparable test to see which is best as for blu ray players its the same for receivers not all use the same components so dither again, you did a test on a 40" i could brag and say that my 59" D6900 that is calibrated and has a Sly HDMI cable coming from my home built HTPC which uses an Nvidia GTX 680 card with an i7 processor onboard which to build cost around nearly 10 times the average price of a Sony Blu ray player, i wont go on but you get my drift my point being is the Sly HDMI should by all accounts not be Full 1080p active 3D compatible but it handles it with ease and that cable was free, I sold the Ixos on due to the fact that i knew deep down i only wanted to spend on
decent cables due to the cost of the system well for me that does not apply anymore.

Ahh yes, but what did you tell the person that you sold it on to ? that it would not make any difference to his system !!!
Regards Mobley3

[thecrazybandit]

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This all very interesting i have often wondered if it was worth spending all that extra money for a top the range hdmi lead or just using the one that came in the box

[gauloises1]

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i have few ordinary hdmi cables and 1 gold platted(philips) and is no differencies between them ,EXCEPT PRICE

[pan1300]

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i have few ordinary hdmi cables and 1 gold platted(philips) and is no differencies between them ,EXCEPT PRICE

correct, exactly same impression here (max about 2m)

[odysseas1991]

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Surely the difference in price must be reflected in the quality of the product? More expensive materials used yet no difference in picture is incredible. I have not managed to test between HDMI cables myself, but since it is a digital signal I see no reason why there would be a difference, so why do manufacturers price these cables upto and beyond £60... ?! Sure, gold plate means less corrosion better conductor, but how does this actually affect the customers?

[cgac99]

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Till now , i got no problem with hdmi cables.
Some i did buy at my local store, otheres on Ebay and it's ok.
About chinese stuff, well, they made crap because someone in Europe or the states tell him to do Crap , cause Chinese do also do good stuff when the order is to make good products. nowdays it's more a question of luck for find good products in any kind of product familly, even in the same brand we can have bad and good products.

[odysseas1991]

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After my last post I have an update on these cables. I was recently at a friends house when the signal from the HDMI cable to the TV dropped. I asked him why and he said it was a cheap cable from a local newsagents that is low quality. He said the original cable is better but he lost it and uses this. I also noticed you can tell their is a difference in picture quality, it looks faded. So I guess there is a difference for more expensive cables!