equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

badr 6:
there is a KU band BSS beam and a C-band high power beam that crosses Belgium without any problem.
if I see this, I think it won't be any problem to receive badr 6 too, next to badr 4??

Haramo, where you see a KU band BSS beam that crosses Belgium without any problem on BADR6? Please post me the link where you see this footprint!!

KU band BSS beam on BADR6 is very hard to receive even in the far-southern of Europe, using dish until 1mt. Believe me, I live there and I'm not able to receive nothing from BADR6. It can easily received only in nord Africa.

The two C-band beams on BADR6 can be received in all european countries, but you need at least a 2mt dish to keep it.

[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

My mistake ( text) I ment that the last beam( C-band) is available in belgium.

So a 2 meter dish is needed to catch the c band? Nothing else?( special lnb, receiver, switch)

About 7W nilesat: i asked the one from holland ( city called 'zelzate')

He receives horizontal channels too. in total he has 710 channels, most of them are FTA channels.

According to him I would have better signal as I'm situated more south then his place (holland is above belgium , north ).

Only way I can explain this, is that some leftovers of the beam of nilesat can travel longer then the theoritical or officially beam.

Strange no?

[zoran89]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

7W nilesat MENA beam in Belgium...
You probably need 150-180cm dish.
Maybe 130cm if it is well align but probably not...

For C-band you need LNB for C-band. Or you can modify universal LNB.

[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

7W nilesat MENA beam in Belgium...
You probably need 150-180cm dish.
Maybe 130cm if it is well align but probably not...

For C-band you need LNB for C-band. Or you can modify universal LNB.

Ok, the one from Holland uses the 130 cm vizyon dish.
another person, also from Holland but he is situated more in the North side( type this in ****** map: Friesland, Drachten) can receive the following:

eutelsat 7 : as good as all transponders can be received.
nilesat 102: only vertical transponders can be received
201/202: not possible to receive


nilesat MENA is the eutesat 7.

universal LNB like inverto black ultra? So by just setting the frequenty and so on, the c-band can be received? Otherwise which C-band LNB is advisable?

Maybe 130cm if it is well align but probably not...

You mean if I can do the job right? :-), well, it has to hé.

[Mobley3]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Eutelsat 7 @ 7.3W is a much newer and stronger sat in Europe but does not carry the frequencies you need, it is not Nilesat. If you have not done so already I would suggest going to www Lyngsat. com or Flysat or Kingofsat and look at the footprints for both 7W and 26E to get some indication of coverage. there is always some differences between the stated coverage and what happens in reality. I have never heard of anybody using a KU Band Lnb for C Band reception it is a completely different beast, it can be combined on a C band dish by the use of a Co-Rotor, so enabling both Ku Band & C Band Lnb's on one installation.

Regards Mobley3

[zoran89]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

No I said that you need C-Band lnb or you can modify your KU lnb.

There is way to turn your KU LNB to C LNB, but you need to take it apart and morify hardware inside it. It is not very difficult...

But it is easyer to buy new one.

[skytec]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

For Nilesat 201 7W in Europe you need a dish 2.5m+ .

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

My mistake ( text) I ment that the last beam( C-band) is available in belgium.

Ok

So a 2 meter dish is needed to catch the c band? Nothing else?( special lnb, receiver, switch)

About 7W nilesat: i asked the one from holland ( city called 'zelzate')

He receives horizontal channels too. in total he has 710 channels, most of them are FTA channels.

According to him I would have better signal as I'm situated more south then his place (holland is above belgium , north ).

Only way I can explain this, is that some leftovers of the beam of nilesat can travel longer then the theoritical or officially beam.

Strange no?

I can seems strange, but it is not so abmnormal as it can look. Often signals are reflected out of offical footprint by a lot of factors, that spread satellite coverage in areas that are far away from the footprint center. This can be the reason why your friend in Holland can be able to receive Nilesat 7W signals. Something like this happened me too in the past, where I was able to receive signals from transponders on spots pointed away from my area. Anyway take in mind that these lucky situations can vary through the time...being the signal received by some casual "reflection" of real footprint, it can suddenly disappear. As I told before, I received this signals for some months, then they disappears and never reappears after.
This can also mean that not necessarily your signal must be stroger than in Holland is, because you are souther, it's true, but the signal your friend receive in Holland is not the real footprint that degrade from south to north.

[aplok]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

... This can be the reason why your friend in Holland can be able to receive Nilesat ...

also keep in mind that the sat operator may carry on
some test for ground station,
located in some places, like Holland ...

sat footprint can be adjusted to meet requirments

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

also keep in mind that the sat operator may carry on
some test for ground station,
located in some places, like Holland ...

sat footprint can be adjusted to meet requirments

Exactly, this can be a valid reason to explain why in Holland your friend is able to recevice Nilesat.

Generally these situations are executed for a limited time, so no guarantee on how much time it will work. May be for 6 months, pheraphs for more, who know? Usually tests are made to end over the time...

[newten]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

To Belgium, probably just a dish 1.5m(minimum), to capture all transponders.