equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

[haramo]

Hi

A friends sister in law , wants to receive Nilesat in city Leuven (near Brussels, in Belgium)

I have searched for info about this a year ago, but now I will instal the first time a big dish.


Some dishes were mentioned:

traix 110 (will there be downfall of the signal?)

130cm Vizyon (according to someone who uses this dish, he has as good as no downfall.)

Visiosat SMC 120 : is a polyester dish. (is it possible that a polyester dish is better than let say a triax dish?)

Gibertini OP 125 L: a aluminium dish (same question?

will a inverto black ultra be good enough? As the person who has the 130 cm vizyon dish, uses this LNB.


The best dish would be the one who can handle weak signal and is the cheapest in price.

[aplok]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Some dishes were mentioned: ...

the quality of a dish is given by some figures as:

- the signal gain (dB)

which is related to
- the geometry quality (focus), efficiency
- the diameter
- the frequency

ask the vendor to brief you about this

[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

I assume how lower the signal gain how better? How bigger the diameter how better?
Focus??? Which is best frequenty for nilesat?

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

If you mean Nilesat at 7W, I seriously doubt you can receive it with a 1.3mt diameter dish in Belgium...I live in south europe and with a 1mt diameter dish I'm able to receive only few transponder from this satellite.

[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Strange. As one of Hollland has a lot of channels.
Belgium under Holland.
Is there another nilesat besite the one on 7w??

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Hello friend,

at 7W orbital position there are 3 satellites:

Nilesat 102, Nilesat 201 and Eutelsat 7W A

All three satellites are pointed on nord Africa and Middle East and only southest Europe regions are on the footprint borders.

Take a look, here are footprints for satellites at 7W:

h**p://satbeams.com/footprints?position=353

In North Europe I suppose that a 3mt dish could not be enough.

[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

If that is the case, how come some in Belgium and Holland have channels that are from nilesat?

If I understand they are not on 7w nilesat( none of the three satellites)?
Why would i try even a 6 meter dish ( if this exist) if nilesat is not broadcasting in belguim?

[Mobley3]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

The channels they are receiving are probably from 26E which is also a Nilesat satellite
You should be able to receive some of them, certainly from NilesaIt 4, signals from 5& 6 can be a bit more difficult. I would go for the Gibertini Dish with the Inverto Black Ultra. I get Nilesat 4 in Dublin on a 1Mtr dish and Black Ultra Lnb with stable signals. I can not get any reception from 7W

Regards Mobley3

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

As confirmed by on the field experience of Mobley3, there is no chance to receive 7W signals in north Europe.

You can try to receive something on 26E position, but only BADR 4 satellite footprints give you some chance. BADR 5 and 6 are out of coverage even in south Europe, so if you are thinking to receive Al Jazeera Sports channels, forget this and don't waste your money and your time.

[aplok]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

i am afraid nile sat 7w is far out of your foot print

get some additional infos from your friends about this...

[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

The channels they are receiving are probably from 26E which is also a Nilesat satellite
You should be able to receive some of them, certainly from NilesaIt 4, signals from 5& 6 can be a bit more difficult. I would go for the Gibertini Dish with the Inverto Black Ultra. I get Nilesat 4 in Dublin on a 1Mtr dish and Black Ultra Lnb with stable signals. I can not get any reception from 7W

Regards Mobley3

Mobley


When I search for the 26° satellite on kingofsat, it's not nilesat but Badr.

I assume you mean Badr 4 if you say Nilesat 4? same for 5 and 6?

Maybe in Belgium is it possible to receive all three?

Only problem wil be the size of the LNB, as the degree are very close to eachother (Badr 4 on 26.03°E badr 5 on 26,07°badr 6 on 26,06°).

Or one 40mm LNB will be enough to receive these three satelites?

[phil76]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Friend, your only chance in Belgium is BADR4.

Here are the footprint you are able to receive:

h**p://satbeams.com/footprints?lat=0&lng=26&zoom=1&beam=5320&type=norm al&name=Temporary

All other at 26E is out of coverage for you. Believe me, BADR5 and 6 are very difficult to recevive even in south Europe.

Is not a problem of LNB.

Regards.

[Mobley3]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Mobley


When I search for the 26° satellite on kingofsat, it's not nilesat but Badr.

I assume you mean Badr 4 if you say Nilesat 4? same for 5 and 6?

Maybe in Belgium is it possible to receive all three?



Only problem wil be the size of the LNB, as the degree are very close to eachother (Badr 4 on 26.03°E badr 5 on 26,07°badr 6 on 26,06°).

Or one 40mm LNB will be enough to receive these three satelites?

Yes my mistake it is Badr4, these sats would all be picked up by the same Lnb
as they would all be seen,these small variations in degrees are of no significance, the only problem stopping you receiving them will be the signal strength from 5&6 as the Beam is different, spend time setting up and hopefully you will be rewarded

Regards Mobley3

[aplok]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

Only problem wil be the size of the LNB, as the degree are very close to eachother (Badr 4 on 26.03°E badr 5 on 26,07°badr 6 on 26,06°).

... then try this dish with 2 deflectors:

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[haramo]

Re: equipment for Nilesat in Belgium

will two reflectors help to improve signal receiving? hmm. if it is worth it , I wil tell her this

When I look to the maps ( satbeams), of badr 4, 5 and 6, I see the following:

Badr4:
Badr 4 Ku band bss beam
badr 4 Ku band FSS beam
badr4 V beam

the first two have no problem to reach belgium

Badr 5 does not broadcast at all in Belgium.

badr 6:
there is a KU band BSS beam and a C-band high power beam that crosses Belgium without any problem.
if I see this, I think it won't be any problem to receive badr 6 too, next to badr 4??