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  • essexman1971
    Newbie
    • Apr 2010
    • 9

    #16
    Re: Risks of cardsharing

    in germany it is not allowed to save IP data at the moment.
    they must get you just in time, you are conneted and ask the provider for the user, but so quick they will not get a response

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    • superhefty
      Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 91

      #17
      Re: Risks of cardsharing

      Originally posted by essexman1971
      in germany it is not allowed to save IP data at the moment.
      they must get you just in time, you are conneted and ask the provider for the user, but so quick they will not get a response
      This is definitely NOT correct.

      There are two Pools of logged IPs. The first Pool "Vorratsdatenspeicherung" (saved for 6 moth) is illegal said the highest german court.

      in the second Pool are IPs that were logged for billing and creating error logs.

      Ips for the second Pool are still saved and can be requested by copyrightholders.īThis is regulated by a german law (§ 101 Abs. 2 UrhG) Thousands requirement for compensation are speaking another version of your post!!!
      Internet provider normally saving IPs for seven days. This is a short time to investigate IPholders but it is possible!!

      hefty

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      • johi
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 15

        #18
        Re: Risks of cardsharing

        i have friend, somebody enter is data to a expensive Internet site and after trial he should pay for that. he made a complaint at the police with the IP he gets from that site.

        the policy told him, that nothing is saved. this was one year ago.

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        • nebula2008
          Newbie
          • Mar 2010
          • 8

          #19
          Re: Risks of cardsharing

          what would happen to the client connected to a card server i am curious to know this and i havent seen the answer yet

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          • essexman1971
            Newbie
            • Apr 2010
            • 9

            #20
            Re: Risks of cardsharing

            i've been watching for months now,i have had no come backs

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            • Jerry2020
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 221

              #21
              Re: Risks of cardsharing

              Originally posted by nebula2008
              what would happen to the client connected to a card server i am curious to know this and i havent seen the answer yet
              What do you mean?
              Who are you talking about?
              U mean legally, what do they do if they catch him

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              • superhefty
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 91

                #22
                Re: Risks of cardsharing

                Originally posted by johi
                i have friend, somebody enter is data to a expensive Internet site and after trial he should pay for that. he made a complaint at the police with the IP he gets from that site.

                the policy told him, that nothing is saved. this was one year ago.
                Please understand that there are differences between civil right and a criminal investigation.
                If a copyrightholder has an IP and ask a Provider during the first 7 Days after logging, he will normally gets the Name and Adress.

                Is it allowed to post a link to a comment of a lawyer about this theme?!
                If not I will send it via PM if somebody is interested in german law


                @es***man
                This is in most cases no problem.

                hefty

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                • satfan
                  Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 82

                  #23
                  Re: Risks of cardsharing

                  The card sharing provider will certainly know your ip

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                  • musogeek
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 11

                    #24
                    Re: Risks of cardsharing

                    an IP is traceable, but procecuting has to be cost effective, so it is probably not in the best interest to procecuse those who share or subscribe to sharing. It is like drug takers and drug dealers. I am not sure if the question could be answered because there is little or no accounts of people being procecuted for the end user part of the activity.

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                    • topman96
                      Board Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 214

                      #25
                      Re: Risks of cardsharing

                      i am sure payservers would get far more severe punishment than some one free sharing like drug dealers if for own use not to bad punishment but if selling more severe

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                      • digicon
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 971

                        #26
                        Re: Risks of cardsharing

                        Originally posted by nebula2008
                        what would happen to the client connected to a card server i am curious to know this and i havent seen the answer yet

                        In the UK as far as i am aware only the server gets prosecuted, But i have heard that if FACT want to push it even further they can get all the connected IP's of a server and prosecute individuals as well. and the end of the day you are receiving a service illegally and paying for it ( if you where connected to a payserver ).

                        If no money changes hands then there is no case to answer too.

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                        • jochen7575
                          Board Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 220

                          #27
                          Re: Risks of cardsharing

                          I think:
                          in germany IPs that were logged for billing and creating error logs will stored for 90 days like the other data like telephone calls

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                          • rbonchev
                            Board Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 327

                            #28
                            Re: Risks of cardsharing

                            Hi everyone.In my country is illegal but I watch it on my own risk.Besides I don't where the server is.

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                            • 123bipper
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 86

                              #29
                              Re: Risks of cardsharing

                              Originally posted by Apples
                              in italy the client have pecuniary issues the logged data are stored for 5 years

                              in italy the very risk is for the server but the client if the server is too big risk because is too probabily an investigation
                              That's not actually true. In Italy the data are stored for 2 years. It's possible to mask your traces a bit like, for example, by using different DNS servers than those of your ISP.

                              Trials are expensive and very time consuming. I never heard of anyone in Italy being prosecuted just for doing card sharing.

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                              • MR Download
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 105

                                #30
                                Re: Risks of cardsharing

                                what kind of punishment can i get in germany?

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