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with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

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  • bokkie
    Experienced Board Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1561

    #16
    Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

    I've had a look around and yes there are a few iptv servers out there, but as stated it is a lot more expensive than cs.
    Hopefully with more competition prices might come down.

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    • runmo
      Experienced Board Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 6123

      #17
      Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

      seems as for sky it it's not a pairing but a change of codes that could be resolved with enigma 3 or new generation of receivers (they talk about mpeg5 for sky hd)

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      • gianni253
        Experienced Board Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 903

        #18
        Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

        Originally posted by kalpikos
        You talk about IPTV as a good solution after cqrdsharind, but it's not.

        Iptv is good enough now, when all people watch tv with cs, but tomorow when the cs will die the iptv won't be a stable solution because of the overloading.
        An IPTV server can't handle many users and it's something differrent from cs.

        Another problem is that it's very easy for the autorities to detect the sourse.
        You can see what happens in countries with packets that can't be sharred with cs.
        The life of a server is from 1 week to 1 month.

        So, in my opinion, the IPTV isn't a solution for now.
        Maybe after some years that it will "grow up" and get rid of some very serious problems.
        I fully agree on all your points mate ... let*s hope cs will stay alive. After all, cs would die only if stb firmwares will become 100% close

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        • kalpikos
          Experienced Board Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 7663

          #19
          Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

          Originally posted by runmo
          seems as for sky it it's not a pairing but a change of codes that could be resolved with enigma 3 or new generation of receivers (they talk about mpeg5 for sky hd)
          I thought that the stopping of specifically HD channels is caused due to pairing of card and the box

          Are you sure that the problem is coming from the different codes?
          Could you please give us more info about that?
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          • aplok
            Experienced Board Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 1155

            #20
            Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

            one solution is to boycott HD

            and continue the venerable good old
            and reliable SD system

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            • thecrazybandit
              Experienced Board Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 768

              #21
              Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

              A bit of a backward step but if we want to continue watching tv it may well be the only option

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              • sataday
                Board Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 327

                #22
                Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                Wth the upscalling, that most stb's have, there isn't a great difference between SD and HD on most Sky channels.

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                • BlueIsMyColor
                  Experienced Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 363

                  #23
                  Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                  Originally posted by gianni253
                  I fully agree on all your points mate ... let*s hope cs will stay alive. After all, cs would die only if stb firmwares will become 100% close
                  If the stb manufacturers does not provide an update to existing boxes or create new compatible boxes their sells will decrease immediately. It's a question of time.

                  Concerning pairing: there is some providers that have their cards paired to boxes and the cs is possible.

                  regards

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                  • gianni253
                    Experienced Board Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 903

                    #24
                    Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                    If it was codec change it would only affect payload, not ecm processing.
                    In other words, we would have cw ok and, at the same time, black screen.
                    But the problem is in decrypted cw, which is wrong ...
                    I don't know about sly_uk, but I can say for sure that for sly_it it's not a codec change.

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                    • kalpikos
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 7663

                      #25
                      Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                      Maybe some of HD channels have been gone but the SD channels are still ok as on sly it.

                      But, I heard that they are planning to stop broadcasting of SD channels and replace them with HD.

                      If this done, then I think that the end of CS is here
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                      • digicon
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 971

                        #26
                        Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                        its not so much a Codec as to do with the Video transmission its more to do with how they now interact with the Subtitle/Interactive Red Button channels i did hear someone say its MHEG5 and NOT! MPEG5

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                        • Triad
                          Experienced Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 422

                          #27
                          Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                          Ok, but no one said what's the bandwidth on 540I, 720P and 1080P??
                          If Fiber optics is must have!? Would some 30/15 Mbps be enough!?

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                          • bokkie
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1561

                            #28
                            Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                            I've been trialing iptv for a few days now and my 30mbps bb was enough for hd.

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                            • kalpikos
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 7663

                              #29
                              Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                              I would say that even having a connection of 24mbps you wouldn't have any problem for the max quality.

                              Iptv you can watch easily with a 4 or 8 mbps speed but with SD quality or the HD that the servers claim to be
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                              • duhoki
                                Experienced Board Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 876

                                #30
                                Re: with sly uk cs coming to an end, where to from here?

                                I have 20mbps and good HD IPTV channels working without problem. Lets hope CS for IPTV will bee more and more to see.

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