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DM 800HD se clone

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  • bakfitty
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 145

    #16
    Re: DM 800HD se clone

    Originally posted by sjamesamuel
    Thanks, this is very clear. You've been of great help.

    I can see on some images "SSL 84". Would you please explain what this means?
    'ssl' means 'second stage loader'. 84 is a version of it.

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    • sjamesamuel
      Board Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 251

      #17
      Re: DM 800HD se clone

      So this is related to the sim? Is it hardware or software?

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      • BlueIsMyColor
        Experienced Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 363

        #18
        Re: DM 800HD se clone

        Originally posted by kalpikos
        Of course they are still "clones" and their quality can't touch the quality of an original.
        What do you mean by "quality can't touch the quality of an original"? It's related to components/hardware?

        regards

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        • gianni253
          Experienced Board Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 903

          #19
          Re: DM 800HD se clone

          Originally posted by sjamesamuel
          So this is related to the sim? Is it hardware or software?
          I would say better:
          security sim is a piece of hardware (just like sims that you put into your mobile phone) with a software embedded.

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          • sjamesamuel
            Board Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 251

            #20
            Re: DM 800HD se clone

            Originally posted by gianni253
            I would say better:
            security sim is a piece of hardware (just like sims that you put into your mobile phone) with a software embedded.
            Alright. So the SSL version is fixed or can be updated for a given sim?

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            • gianni253
              Experienced Board Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 903

              #21
              Re: DM 800HD se clone

              Originally posted by sjamesamuel
              Alright. So the SSL version is fixed or can be updated for a given sim?
              No mate ... it's hardcoded !
              You have to replace the sim ...

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              • BlueIsMyColor
                Experienced Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 363

                #22
                Re: DM 800HD se clone

                If you see here, there are "new" DM models (with little upgrades). If you wait some time maybe we will have new clones too.

                regards

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                • sjamesamuel
                  Board Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 251

                  #23
                  Re: DM 800HD se clone

                  How long does it typically take to produce clone from the time originals are produced?

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                  • aplok
                    Experienced Board Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 1155

                    #24
                    Re: DM 800HD se clone

                    so,

                    when buying such a sat rcvr,
                    we should inquire the sim version,
                    and ****** which team supports it ...

                    how to know the sim version ?

                    is it specified if a sat rcvr image is sim-x compatible ?

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                    • sjamesamuel
                      Board Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 251

                      #25
                      Re: DM 800HD se clone

                      Originally posted by aplok
                      so,

                      when buying such a sat rcvr,
                      we should inquire the sim version,
                      and ****** which team supports it ...

                      how to know the sim version ?

                      is it specified if a sat rcvr image is sim-x compatible ?

                      Yes, the sim type is specified for each image. For a8p, as explained in this thread, original images can be used.

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                      • kalpikos
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 7663

                        #26
                        Re: DM 800HD se clone

                        Originally posted by BlueIsMyColor
                        What do you mean by "quality can't touch the quality of an original"? It's related to components/hardware?
                        Of course it's related to components/hardware.
                        The hardware of an original can't be compared to a clone's one.
                        The one of the original is by far much much better.

                        Have you ever had an original dreambox?
                        If you did, you would have noticed that there is no green screen or red screen or any other colour screen or burned parts as tuners or power supplies.
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                        • BlueIsMyColor
                          Experienced Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 363

                          #27
                          Re: DM 800HD se clone

                          Originally posted by kalpikos
                          Of course it's related to components/hardware.
                          The hardware of an original can't be compared to a clone's one.
                          The one of the original is by far much much better.

                          Have you ever had an original dreambox?
                          If you did, you would have noticed that there is no green screen or red screen or any other colour screen or burned parts as tuners or power supplies.
                          Yes, my friend. I have a DM500s with 7 years old and still working without problems. The question is: the % of problems in dm clones is big or not? And if we have problems who makes the reparation?

                          regards

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                          • gianni253
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 903

                            #28
                            Re: DM 800HD se clone

                            Originally posted by BlueIsMyColor
                            ... The question is: the % of problems in dm clones is big or not? And if we have problems who makes the reparation?
                            regards
                            Basing on my direct experience, 99% of problems are given by bad electrolytic capacitors.
                            Within this 99%, 90% are capacitors in psu unit, the rest in network section.
                            I don't think you will receive a good support from clone sellers, so you have to repair boxes by yourself (with a little skill in electronics and soldering),

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                            • kalpikos
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 7663

                              #29
                              Re: DM 800HD se clone

                              Originally posted by BlueIsMyColor
                              Yes, my friend. I have a DM500s with 7 years old and still working without problems. The question is: the % of problems in dm clones is big or not? And if we have problems who makes the reparation?
                              As said gianni253, the most problems are in motherboard.
                              Faulty capacitors or other electronic parts on the m/b is the main cause for the broken clones.

                              The network stop working, the tuner don't work properly, the box can't power up... and many other problems.
                              The psu also have very serious problems and must be changed after 1-2 years.

                              All these parts need a special electronic who know about SMD circuits and fixes in order to be repaired.
                              In many cases the money that the repair costs is higher that a new clone, so these broken clones go for rubbish.
                              When a small fix is needed, this can be done easy by someone who know some things in electronic circuits.
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                              • youngjeezy
                                Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 71

                                #30
                                Re: DM 800HD se clone

                                another specification of china clones are the electric adapter is made from very poor material.

                                Also wanted to add, that there are 2 types of clones, original company clones: made in PRC and unregistered clones (radiation materials used as in toothpaste like Colgate).
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