Advice for a noob on motorised set up

[gandalf72]

Hi folks new to all this and confused after reading some of the posts so thought rather than hijacking an existing thread I would post a new one hope that is ok.

From what I have read it is important that you get the best hardware and things move fast in the sat world. I have no existing sat dish or gear and looking to try out a motorized sat system.

Now I am lost with the difference with cclines or ccams, servers etc so if we start off assuming I have no knowledge.

I am based in Scotland, I would like to access a good service to allow me access to all channels I can get up here in bonny Scotland. For receiver my budget is hopefully under £320 uk pounds. As said I am thinking motorized set up, I would also like to watch and record different programs at the same time if possible.

I see a lot of posts highlighting that the Vu + duo is a good one and I also seen someone talk about a Xtrend ET9200 Silver Line saying it is good. Ideally as I said I would like it as noob proof as possible but dont want a halfway box to start off with would rather pay for the better one at the start and grow into it so to speak.

As there is no exisiting sly dish / set up does this mean that I require twin coax and lnb?

I also want it to have true hd and be as future proof as possible at this current point in time.

Anyone able to help much appreciated.

[bokkie]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

As a noob, much like myself, i'd stick with the vu+ duo.
From what i've seen it has much better write ups and is also much better supported.
I'll be getting mine very soon, just deciding between a clone for £190, or an original.

[toby69]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

if you go motorised and only need 1 receiver no need for twin coax leads an lnb, as motor will drive dish to all satellites required in your horizon.
c/lines or n/lines are codes you enter into box to descramble chns.

[bokkie]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

if you go motorised and only need 1 receiver no need for twin coax leads an lnb, as motor will drive dish to all satellites required in your horizon.
c/lines or n/lines are codes you enter into box to descramble chns.

Don't you need twin coax and lnb if you want to watch one channel and record another on different transponders though?

[Triad]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

Don't you need twin coax and lnb if you want to watch one channel and record another on different transponders though?

Toby is referring only to viewing, not recording.
There's no satisfactory solution for viewing and recording at the same time except twin tuner receivers, at least until now no! I know ppl used two different systems, and for full service some used two different motorised antennas with two recs. One VU+ and second Dream 500 since it has better rec capabilities.

[gandalf72]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

So am I right in thinking then that buying a dual tuner is a waste of time? and you need to buy two different boxes if you want to watch and record at the same time or have I got it completely wrong -sorry re my question if it is daft just trying to get my head round this.

My understanding was that I would need a dual lnb, dual coax to be able to record two channels or watch and record simultaneously.

In terms of sat dish motorised system what size do I need for Scotland to get euro and uk stuff?

Thanks in advance

[toby69]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

i installed my own motor plus others, with a 120cm dish an if you unsure about what you doing you can no doubt get an installer to do the job, will put the cost of set-up more, best bet wait till warmer weather kicks in an just have a fixed system say just on hotbird 13 east, till you get your head around it a bit, then do some reading about motorised an do yourself, that way its more fun.

[bokkie]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

If you have a twin tuner box, such as the vu+duo, a twin lnb and twin coax, you can watch one channel and record another as long as they're on the same sat.
Would work like a sky+ box.
But obviously it has to be on the sat that the dish is pointing at.
Like on 28.2 for example, you have all the sky channels you could watch say, Glee on one and record Dora the Explorer on the other.
That's what happens in my house anyway when I let go of the remote.

[gandalf72]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

Thanks for clearing that up so I would definitely require the dual lnb and cable in order to record and watch a program on the same sat signal.

[bokkie]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

In my limited experience, yes.
Although I think with some boxes you can watch and record with a single tuner from the same transponder, but that limits it quite a bit.
Have to ask someone more in the know about that though.
But basically yes, twin tuner, twin lnb, twin coax= Glee and Dora all at the same time.
Happy days

[toby69]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

im sure ive read some where someone had this also but for sly a fixed dish was used. but could still view chns from other sats on a motor? perhaps.

[bokkie]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

Only way I know is to have a sky dish and motorised dish.
1 feed connected to sky dish, one connected to the motorised dish.
That's what I'm after anyways.

[Triad]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

i installed my own motor plus others, with a 120cm dish an if you unsure about what you doing you can no doubt get an installer to do the job, will put the cost of set-up more, best bet wait till warmer weather kicks in an just have a fixed system say just on hotbird 13 east, till you get your head around it a bit, then do some reading about motorised an do yourself, that way its more fun.

Agree with Toby in the end. Didn't know that Vu Duo is twin tuner in the first place so I'm along with that. Only thing is then to find best image that could support view-record mode freezfree!

[huston]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

on Spiderbox you can certainly record one channel and watch another on the same transponder, but that is a fairly narrow option.

[digicon]

Re: Advice for a noob on motorised set up

On a single tuner receiver if it has PVR functions then you can at least record 2 channels and watch another on the same transpoder.

Example : on Astra 28.2° (Sky To us Uk) Transponder 11307 H 27500, with a single tuner PVR you could record say Comedy Central extra and Si-Fi channel and watch Movies 24

Now if you have 2 feeds form 28.2° east and you have say for example a Vu+ Duo then you can record 3 different channels on the same transponder on Tuner A and Record 2 channels on tuner B while watching a 3rd channel on Tuner B on the same transponder.

Example : Same transponder as above but on Tuner A on Duo Record si-fi channel + Comedy Central Extra + Movies 24.

While on Tuner B you could record on TP 11389 H 27500 animal planet +1 and discovery science +1 while watching Dmax Uk, you could also record that as well as watching.

So to clarify on a single tuner its possible to record 3 channels on the same transponder but with a dual tuner like the Duo you can record up to 6 channels on 2 different transponders.


Regards