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  • rizwan
    Experienced Board Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 844

    #16
    Re: Server/Package response time

    What about premium server ? Its work with out any glitches ?
    Vu+ Solo2
    Dream Box 800HD,
    Neotion 3000, Skystar2, PTCL IPTV
    HP LCD W2338h
    Samsung LED 40 C5000

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    • odysseas1991
      Experienced Board Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 635

      #17
      Re: Server/Package response time

      The premium server will open all packages(like all the servers here) so you won't be needing any softcam to open anything. The premium server is supposed to give you the best quality out of all the servers but nothing is perfect, problems do occur sometimes. I have seen premium members complain sometimes of small freezes but sometimes it might be your CCCAM settings and files might need updating. But the premium server is obviously the best to have...

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      • uttnls

        #18
        Re: Server/Package response time

        Originally posted by odysseas1991
        Yes, the same c line cannot be active at the same time. If someone is trying to use the same c line as you at the same time, it will cause conflicts and cause freezing and then disconnecting. The only way to solve disconnection problem is to get enough posts to get server 4 because that up until now has never disconnected for me.
        Happened to me this morning, just switched to other C line and works smoothly now, is better also because of server relocation :P

        This is a common issue that most of users blame on server, if someone uses same C line the one having the ping better will always win, but it will never be stable even if you have a better ping.

        If the server works fine and you encounter glitches and constant freeze after a while then the first thing to do is to change the C line

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        • rizwan
          Experienced Board Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 844

          #19
          Re: Server/Package response time

          Is it depend on Box software or image to open packages ?
          Vu+ Solo2
          Dream Box 800HD,
          Neotion 3000, Skystar2, PTCL IPTV
          HP LCD W2338h
          Samsung LED 40 C5000

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          • uttnls

            #20
            Re: Server/Package response time

            Originally posted by rizwan
            Is it depend on Box software or image to open packages ?
            No, if you can use a C line then you have all you need, it depends on server what packages are available.

            You can have a c line with one provider or a c line like those from stalover having hundreds of providers, it all depends on the C line used and server side (what is shared on that C line)

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            • powerman
              Banned
              • Aug 2010
              • 676

              #21
              Re: Server/Package response time

              yes i think when my ping time go down NDS have more freeze than other systems

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              • os2222
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 175

                #22
                Re: Server/Package response time

                it doesnt`t really depend on the c-line. it depends on what subscription the ppl connected to that server or the server itselv shares.

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                • uttnls

                  #23
                  Re: Server/Package response time

                  Originally posted by os2222
                  it doesnt`t really depend on the c-line. it depends on what subscription the ppl connected to that server or the server itselv shares.
                  That comes via a C line, the server can have lots of shares but if is not shared or restricted on a particular client then you don't have all server shares.

                  Like I siad is all about the C/F line )), and what you are payng for :P

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                  • yselim
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 100

                    #24
                    Re: Server/Package response time

                    Originally posted by rizwan
                    Is it depend on Box software or image to open packages ?
                    images have nothing to open channnels. it is simply the operating system of dreambox. it is plugins like cccam, mgcam etc. that opens scrambled channels.
                    there are basicly two ways to open scrambled channels/packages. first one is using a server and second one is using emus.these plugins have both emu and server way working capabilities . in emu way you dont need any internet connection. plugin itself decryts channel.these days there are not much channels that can be watched using emu way. this is why most people use a server to watch these channels.in server method you use a cline to open channels. cline consist of remoteserveradress port login name and pass. when you switch to a scrambled channel your cccam plugin uses that cline information to connect the server and regularly demans card informations to open the scrambled channel.

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                    • uttnls

                      #25
                      Re: Server/Package response time

                      Originally posted by yselim
                      images have nothing to open channnels. it is simply the operating system of dreambox. it is plugins like cccam, mgcam etc. that opens scrambled channels.
                      there are basicly two ways to open scrambled channels/packages. first one is using a server and second one is using emus.these plugins have both emu and server way working capabilities . in emu way you dont need any internet connection. plugin itself decryts channel.these days there are not much channels that can be watched using emu way. this is why most people use a server to watch these channels.in server method you use a cline to open channels. cline consist of remoteserveradress port login name and pass. when you switch to a scrambled channel your cccam plugin uses that cline information to connect the server and regularly demans card informations to open the scrambled channel.
                      Maybe in your area, there are lots of channels that can be opened with softcam, just open softcam with wordpad and you'll see the huge number.

                      There are also full packages that can be unlocked with softcams, without need of an internet connection or a LAN capable box

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                      • odysseas1991
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 635

                        #26
                        Re: Server/Package response time

                        Is it possible to open with softcam the nova GR/CY package on hotbird? Im only aware of bulsat and canal netherlands opening properly via softcam, if you know of any way it would be good.

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                        • yselim
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 100

                          #27
                          Re: Server/Package response time

                          uttnls:
                          presence of keys in softcam.key file doesnt always mean you can watch them. there must be an upgraded plugin for dream or a upgraded firmware for your receiver. there are some channels/packages that we can watch by emu .bulsatcom orf austuriasat canaldigitaal etc.
                          but currently it is not possible to watch most of the importantant channels. this is why cardservers exist. for sure emu is a better way to watch because you will not get freezes . if it were possible to watch by emu people would choose emu way.



                          odysseas1991:
                          as far as i know it isnt possible to watch nova using emu.

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                          • uttnls

                            #28
                            Re: Server/Package response time

                            Originally posted by yselim
                            could it be another person who has same cline in his box. what are the symtoms of this. what happens when two persons try to watch with same cline. can we say that if I am connected with a cline another person cannot be logged in until I log off.
                            Thats the ideea both of you will recive DCW's but sometimes you sometimes him, then in order to respond to other user you are disconnected. It is a request/response protocol and does not involve active connections.

                            The result is that no user can use that C line, whitout freezes and disconnections.

                            The short response is : you can connect while others connect using same C line but it won't work correctly to anywone

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                            • odysseas1991
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 635

                              #29
                              Re: Server/Package response time

                              With the update to server4, I have tested a few channels for the server response and reliability in terms of freezing etc. I went to 28East to test the sky package and I found that even though all the channels are NDS, they reliability of the channel decrypting from the server varies from each channel, and not package... For example, Sky movie HD channels would freeze whilst National Geographic HD would not and would run perfectly.

                              Can anyone explain how this works and why because on the majority of the packages I would like to use, most channels freeze but it seems there a certain channels regardless of what CAS they use, are not affected and decrypt perfectly...

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                              • os2222
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 175

                                #30
                                Re: Server/Package response time

                                my personal experience with sky uk and satlover server 4 showed that reception w/out freezes is not possible. it doesn`t matter what time i`m connected to the server. the "peers" just need too much time to answer
                                with sky germany at 19,2 east i have the same problems.

                                somewhere i found an article about this issue concerning sky (uk / germany), cccam and the freezing problems. i can no longer find this one, sorry about that

                                btw: sky germany uses one of these encryption mechanisms
                                Cryptoworks
                                Nagraaladin
                                Nagravision 2 + 3
                                Videoguard

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