Different clines from same server over same IP?

[gianni253]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

There it's about same line used by two tuners (in one receiver), here it's different lines used by two different receivers.

different lines used by two different receivers will bring two different node-ids (from the same ip).
99% it will result in a server ban.

[aplok]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

all this looks like clear and conventionnal data over ip, trough udp or tcp via firewall

here, we are in cam protocol, that is data into ecm packet,

[[ [[ data ] ecm ] udp|tcp ] ip ]

however, should ecm packet:

send as clear text ?
or encrypted via internet ?
or even more tunnelled into whatsoever from the rcvr to the srvr ?

and so the cam srvr filter may firewall ecm packet trough NodeID instead of ip !

[Satphoenix]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

different lines used by two different receivers will bring two different node-ids (from the same ip).
99% it will result in a server ban.

Because I'm only a client, I have to learn a bit. Each pure client-receiver has an own node ID? Servers, ok, but pure clients? Is it their client-network identification?

@aplok: It's a bit difficult to read your post#17
As far as I know the cccam sends ecm-requests and answers encrypted via the net.

[ocram88]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

The server to which you connect one sees your IP address, the output from your home network. If you then connect to your internal network with two devices with two different IP addresses, the output from your home network, you will be identified only ever with an IP address and you risk being banned.

[gianni253]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

... Each pure client-receiver has an own node ID? Servers, ok, but pure clients? Is it their client-network identification?

Yes mate, every ccc*am instance, client or server, when started generates it's own "node id".
You can try to see that yourself: just start ccc*am in debug mode from a telnet session and you will see ...

CCcam –dv

[aplok]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

@Satphoenix


sorry, i'll try

... and so the cam srvr filter may firewall ecm packet trough NodeID instead of ip !

let's assume a sat rcvr and a cam srvr,

r ->ecm-> s

where

the server can filter, first with a firewall, according ip,prot,src,dst,port rules;

the cam server can also filter, a step further, according to internal nodeid;

i hope it is clearer ...

[kostis]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

hi,
how many people have static (WAN)ip-address? You can't be banned
because of your (router)ip-Address because this address change
every day (And if you are banned it could be only for one day). This is
why you can only be banned over a receiver/device and not over an IP-Address.
is this true?

i dont think so, they can find out the user and banned him even if he try to access from elsewhere.

[herrr]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

i dont think so, they can find out the user and banned him even if he try to access from elsewhere.

There are of course 2 ID levels: username and IP.
Usually the second one is really quite useless, because IP is normally dynamic and it's enough to turn your router off and then on and you have a different IP...

[ocram88]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

Yeah, but if at the same instant sign in with the same IP using the same account, they could cause problems.

[aplok]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

hi,

from Hadu - CCCam DVB plugin - v Beta 0.102.rar/readme.txt, i read this

- what is hadu ...

Hadu is a CardSharing Client plugin for DVB softwares on PC using DVB TV-Cards (Windows).

It works as a MD plugin, a DVBCore plugin or as a DVBViewer plugin.

Currently, it only supports the CCCam protocol (without the AU option).

- what about Different clines from same server over same IP

Limits:
-------
Here are the main current limits applied into the plugin:

...

To not overload CCCam servers, it's not allowed within the plugin to have 2 active connections with the same server at the same time.

Same server meaning here: same IP address and same port.

maybe this will helps to clear it up

[herrr]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

Yeah, but if at the same instant sign in with the same IP using the same account, they could cause problems.

Of course, I was answering to the other doubts about logging in from another place and so on...

[aplok]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

- 2 connections on the same ip is forbidden -

that seems that those cam does not support session concept,

let's have an example:

- i have one ip, and one firefox on ******, one window open on ****** -> ok because 1 session

- i have one ip, and one firefox on ******, 3 windows open on ****** -> tcpip differentiates those 3 sessions by port session id

should therefore cam manage more than one session from twin tuner rcvr ?
on behalf of the nodeid !

also, let's assume a twin rcvr, the cam p should launch 2 independent cam processes for the 2 tuner, is'nt it ?
-> and should hold 2 nodeid for those 2 ...

[gianni253]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

- 2 connections on the same ip is forbidden -

that seems that those cam does not support session concept,

They do support ... but admins do not want, so admins use features (such as "duplicate user", "anticascading" etc etc) to protect their servers from overload and unfair use.