Different clines from same server over same IP?

[Satphoenix]

A question about cline-using.
I know it's forbidden (from the most servers) to use more than 1 cline at the same time in the same receiver.
But what about using 2 receivers with different clines from the same server at the same time?
I don't want to try it with satlover server3 or 4 lines to avoid a possible ban. So my question, is it allowed?

[gianni253]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

Are the 2 receivers behind the same router (so that requests appear from the same ip) ?
Are the two clines pointing to the same cs server ?

[bakfitty]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

A question about cline-using.
I know it's forbidden (from the most servers) to use more than 1 cline at the same time in the same receiver.
But what about using 2 receivers with different clines from the same server at the same time?
I don't want to try it with satlover server3 or 4 lines to avoid a possible ban. So my question, is it allowed?

I think, it is not allowed if both of the the receivers have the same ip. That using would possibly cause problems.

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[Clark197]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

hi,
you can use in each receiver in your home Network one cline
(not important from witch Server). Of course if they are connected
to internet they must have different ip-address.

Regards
Clark

[Satphoenix]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

Are the 2 receivers behind the same router (so that requests appear from the same ip) ?
Are the two clines pointing to the same cs server ?

Yes, behind the same router. Two receivers in two different rooms in my house.

hi,
you can use in each receiver in your home Network one cline
(not important from witch Server). Of course if they are connected
to internet they must have different ip-address.

They have the same IP, connected over the same router.
How could they have different IPs?

[bakfitty]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

@ Satphoenix

They can't have different ip addresses with the same internet connection. That is possible only in the case if both of the receivers connect on 2 different internet services. Or you should subscribe for a second ip address at your internet provider if it is possible.

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[Mobley3]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

As they are behind the same Router I think you already know what the answer is.
I certainly would not risk it.

Regards Mobley3

[aplok]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

They have the same IP, connected over the same router.
How could they have different IPs?

this should be blocked by your isp as a spoofing attempt originated by a dodgy process from your lan

even more, if you are ip1, and you send ip2 labelled packet, the server will response back them to ip2

[kalpikos]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

@Satphoenix

It is not allowed my friend.
The two receivers are connected on the same router, and both have the same IP.

When you try to make a connection to a server from 2 diferent receivers, even on the same network, you will receive a ban.

Dear @aplok
I don't understand your post.
Could you explain it with simple words?

[duhoki]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

Your receivers are in you home nettwork with diffrence IP adresse. We have to type of IP adresse that is important here.

LAN IP:
This is IP adresse provided to all your host on your home nettwork from your router that your ISP have given to you. Normaly they will be some thing liek 192.168.0.X or 10.0.0.X

WAN IP:
This is the IP adresse that is connected to you within "the internet". This i a static IP adresse that you get form your ISP. All you host on you home nettwokr will ahve this IP adresse when they contact internet. When you connect to satlover server, satlover will only recognize you with WAN IP adresse

Conclusion:
If you connect to same satlover server with two driffrence receiver with in your home nettwork with diffrence LAN IP adresse, satlover will only see it as two request from same IP dresse(WAN IP) and therfore banned as it is not allowed.

Workarround:
Some ISP offerc modems with 4 ports you can use. Each of this ports have its own WAN IP adresse, and you can connect you receiver to one of this ports and use same server as another receiver within your home nettwokr. COntact your ISP for more information about if you have it like that.

Hope this cleared up for you guys

[Satphoenix]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

As they are behind the same Router I think you already know what the answer is.
...

When you try to make a connection to a server from 2 diferent receivers, even on the same network, you will receive a ban...

The problem is, I'm not so sure.
We had a similar discussion here with an equal problem:

http://www.satlover.eu/forum/card-sharing-general-discussion/49658-clines-in-twin-receiver.html

There it's about same line used by two tuners (in one receiver), here it's different lines used by two different receivers.

Even runmo told to ask satlover himself for a qualified answer. I think that's what I'm gonna do and post (if it's allowed) the answer. Seems to be the most safety way to avoid a server ban.

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Edit: duhoki, the wan-ip the main point/problem and the reason for this topic. I have two receivers in two rooms. Seems that only one room can use server4...

[kostis]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

better wait for an admin to answer this. from my site if the receivers are on at the same time then they use 2 clines at once. try one cline from server 4 on the first receiver and one from server 3 on the other for now.

[Clark197]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

hi,
how many people have static (WAN)ip-address? You can't be banned
because of your (router)ip-Address because this address change
every day (And if you are banned it could be only for one day). This is
why you can only be banned over a receiver/device and not over an IP-Address.
is this true?

[aplok]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

@kalpikos

sorry, i'll try

this should be blocked by your isp as a spoofing attempt originated by a dodgy process from your lan

spoofing
IP spoofing is the creation IP packets with a forged source IP address.

let's say your're ip=1.0.0.1, the ip1
you want to send out packet on behalf of 10.0.0.2, the ip2
that is spoofing

even more, if you are ip1, and you send ip2 labelled packet, the server will response back them to ip2

and consequently, the srvr will send back his response, either
ip1: 10.0.0.1
or
ip2: 10.0.0.1
as labelled in the source ip address of the packet

that is, this packet-in-return-to-ip2 will never be send to you (ip1) ( fortunately ...)


i hope it is more clear ...

[duhoki]

Re: Different clines from same server over same IP?

Satlover point this out with the rules:

1)Pls dont use more then One Cline for avoid blocking from servers FIREWALL

Now when you use example satlover server with two receiver on the same WAN adresse, you will send to high ecm request and therfore be banned as the server firewall rules says that.