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  • pablo58
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 18

    permanent timeshift

    I have a question: using permanent timeshift plugin with ecm cache could be resolved the problem of the freezes due to the latency of the remote connection?
  • gianni253
    Experienced Board Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 903

    #2
    Re: permanent timeshift

    Originally posted by pablo58
    I have a question: using permanent timeshift plugin with ecm cache could be resolved the problem of the freezes due to the latency of the remote connection?
    No.
    If the ecm request do not receive an answer in time, the payload will not be decrypted in any way.

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    • pablo58
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 18

      #3
      Re: permanent timeshift

      But being the stream delayed by the timeshift plugin also the ecm request does not occur with the same delay, finding them in the cache?

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      • gianni253
        Experienced Board Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 903

        #4
        Re: permanent timeshift

        When a dcw is lost (because the server did not answer) ... is lost !
        And the payload that it was supposed to decrypt is lost as well.
        If you are talking about delayed (not missing or lost) dcws, the same situation applies: dcw must be available to Common Descrambling System before the payload is received.

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        • pablo58
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 18

          #5
          Re: permanent timeshift

          But now the important question is: the permanent timeshift plugin works on the signal already decrypted or before? And how can I verify this? Thanks for your responses.

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          • gianni253
            Experienced Board Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 903

            #6
            Re: permanent timeshift

            Originally posted by pablo58
            But now the important question is: the permanent timeshift plugin works on the signal already decrypted or before? And how can I verify this? Thanks for your responses.
            Permanent timeshift is nothing else then a permanent, continuous recording on a given channel. That's the magic that allows you to go back and rewind (while recording still goes on in the background).
            Recording takes place in real time and, of course, only decrypted packets are stored on disk.
            Maybe you are confusing with "offline descrambling" technique, but it's all another thing ...

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            • pablo58
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 18

              #7
              Re: permanent timeshift

              Sorry but then how can we implement a delayer software that allows a client to remedy a ping too high, such as the delayer of Qbox hd? Thanks.

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              • gianni253
                Experienced Board Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 903

                #8
                Re: permanent timeshift

                Originally posted by pablo58
                Sorry but then how can we implement a delayer software that allows a client to remedy a ping too high, such as the delayer of Qbox hd? Thanks.
                A software (or hardware) delayer records separately both encrypted payload and dcws. Later (after a given delay) it reassembles them together, just like an offline descrambler does, to give a smooth and glitchless image.
                But it relies on assumption that no dcw is lost.

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                • pablo58
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Re: permanent timeshift

                  And there is this "plugin" for the dreambox. Can you show me where to find it? Thanks.

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