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  • EUROASTRA
    Experienced Board Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1198

    Motor Manuals

    Installing a motorised satellite system..

    Installing a motorised satellite system is a challenge but well worth the time spent. For this tutorial I will assume that you are going to wall mount your dish but if not you will be glad to know that most of the information here will still apply to you.

    Following the instructions found here you should be able to have a fully working system within 3-4 hours.

    You will need:

    A satellite receiver
    A satellite dish
    An LNB
    T & K brackets
    A pole
    A motor
    Satellite cable
    F plugs etc to make the connections
    A satellite Meter
    A compass
    Ladder
    Toolbox

    Advice on what to buy

    Determine what you want to watch i.e. movies, music, documentaries or whatever you can get as this will determine what satellite receiver you buy. Some receivers can be patched with software to allow you to view pay TV but others may require you to buy a conditional access module which you would have to program in order to view encrypted channels. There are receivers out there that use software to emulate these cam's but these types of boxes are usually for enthusiasts only and are quite expensive i.e. Dreambox.

    Your best bet is to buy something that can be upgraded in the future but also very simple for you to use and for this purpose I would recommend a Technomate satellite receiver. The Technomate 1500 CI+ would be my choice as it represents good value and is so simple a young child could operate it.

    Buying a complete kit is a good way of saving money and you know that everything you have purchased was designed to work together.

    Satellite dishes can be thought of as very ugly devices but there are ways of disguising your dish. Metal dishes can be sprayed with car paint to help them blend into the surroundings or you may want to by a transparent satellite dish made of polycarbonates which for installations near the seaside are brilliant as they do not rust. New products are always being developed to help people disguise their satellite installations. As with allot of things size really does matter but due to the local council's dislike of satellite dishes you may not get planning permission for anything to large and your neighbours may complain if the dish obstructs a view from their property so I would recommend not going for a dish any bigger than 90cm though you can always risk a bigger dish and hope that nobody notices. Bigger dishes are essential for picking up weaker signals.

    You want to buy a universal LNB and preferably 0.3db. The lower the number the better the picture quality will be. Universal means that the LNB is not fixed to only receiving channels on a certain band.

    The motor should support Diseqc 1.2, Goto X and USALS as should your satellite receiver. USALS stand for Universal Satellite Automatic Locator System and use your longitude and latitude in order to track the satellites positioned above the Clarke belt. Having USALS will make things simple so it's a good thing to have. The Moteck Digipower 2100A would be my choice as it supports all of the above and can turn from 75E to 75W. This motor can be driven using buttons on the base of the unit which helps to set the dish up quickly. It also moves quite quickly so you don't have to wait so long when moving from one satellite to another.

    Starting the install

    A dry warm weekend is best for this preferably when your partner is out shopping or something. Start by looking for a neighbours Sky satellite dish and look where the dish arm is pointing. As we are in the North and the satellites circle the equator we know that our dish has to have a clear view of the south. Alternatively use a compass for a more precise reading. Look at your home and decide where the best place to mount the dish will be. Mine is on the side of my house just above the roof so it has an unobstructed view of the sky both East to West.

    Once you have decided where the dish will go you need to fix the brackets to the wall. Opinions differ as to how these should be fitted to the wall but I prefer to have the K at the top as I believe it adds greater stability to the dish especially in high winds. The brackets should be approximately 1m apart. You will need strong bolts in order to get a good fixing.

    Once complete you will need to attach the pole using U clamps and make sure that the pole is 100% vertical. This is the most important thing you will do so make sure it's spot on and check with either a spirit level or inclinometer.
    A hammer may be needed to tap the brackets and pole in order to get things completely level.

    Once complete go and have a cup of tea and read the instruction leaflet that came with your dish. Dish assembly is quite straight forward.

    Unpack the motor and flick through the instructions. There should be a chart which tells you what to set the inclination and declination to on your motor and satellite dish based on your latitude. If you don't know what your latitude and longitude are you can visit www.multimap.com and type in your post code. Your latitude and longitude will be displayed under the picture of the map.

    Now would be a good time to wire up the LNB to the motor. Pre made cables for this purpose are available.

    Set the motor and dish to the settings given in the motor manual and triple check everything as it's far easier to work on the dish when it's on ground level. Now bolt the dish to the motor insuring that the motor is set to 0 degrees and that the dish goes on completely central. Again this is an important step so make sure it’s accurate.

    Take the dish up the ladder and bolt it onto the pole making sure the dish will not be obstructed by anything. Using a compass find magnetic south and adjust to find true south. A map that shows the magnetic variation for your location is helpful but not essential as you can turn the dish manually and raise and lower the dish as long as the brackets are loosened.

    As a general rule you want to find the closest satellite to your longitude, which will always be the highest satellite in the sky and gives you a better chance of tracking the arc, in my case I chose Thor 1W (If you were in Dublin say, you would be better with Atlantic Bird at 5W).

    Plug in your satellite receiver and run a cable outside so that you can plug in your satellite meter. Satellite meters take power from the receiver so the receiver will need to be on and not just in standby. A good meter for this purpose is the Digisat Pro satellite meter. Connect your cable from the receiver and another cable to the motor and gently move the dish side to side and up and down until you get the best possible signal. Once complete you can tighten up the brackets and run a new satellite cable from the motor to the satellite receiver.

    Satellite cables come in 3 main colours which are white, brown and black. You should use the colour of cable that is most pleasing to the eye. I find black cable is best suited to brick houses.

    You should now weatherproof your hard work with silicone and tape and make sure that the cables are long enough that should the dish move a long way in one direction that the cables will not be stretched or damaged.

    You can now set your receiver to USALS and start scanning and storing satellites.
    It is advisable to check which satellites you can receive for your size / type of dish on the satellite forums. You may need to tweak your setup a little to get a good signal on all satellites.
    Please read the Forum Rules
    Problems and questions in PM! I'll not answer!
  • runmo
    Experienced Board Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 6123

    #2
    Re: Motor Manuals

    How program usals? I guess it depends from country to country.
    Is there a list with country settings?

    regards
    runmo

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    • galingo
      Board Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 263

      #3
      Re: Motor Manuals

      Everyone must enter the geographic coordinates of the zone, longitude and latitude

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      • runmo
        Experienced Board Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 6123

        #4
        Re: Motor Manuals

        Can country geographic coordinates be found on the internet?
        Is there some kind of list for the different zones?

        regards
        runmo

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        • peremacedonia
          Experienced Board Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 872

          #5
          Re: Motor Manuals

          try this link
          motor manuals
          and i thing you sould hit thanks button for this
          Rule n.33 kid..... Concentrate

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          • Resident
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 151

            #6
            Re: Motor Manuals

            This was one of the coolest posts I've seen in a long time. As soon as I get my act together I'm gonna buy a dish and a motor. (Or just resolve to a diseq switch again...) Too bad the local councils are pretty strict about dishes...

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            • anacondama
              Banned
              • Jul 2010
              • 865

              #7
              Re: Motor Manuals

              Originally posted by runmo
              Can country geographic coordinates be found on the internet?
              Is there some kind of list for the different zones?

              regards
              runmo
              if your talking about longitude and latitude coordinates then yes
              see the link HERE

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              • satman72
                Experienced Board Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 3550

                #8
                Re: Motor Manuals

                This is best site for find your coordinates, you can imput your city and your street too: _http://www.multimap.com/
                Then here you can find a good calculator for your elevation and azimut dish, it is multilanguage: _http://www.satlex.us/en/azel_calc.html
                Just click on thanks button if my post has helped you
                Don't send me cline requests, technical or premium server questions in PM! I'll not answer!

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                • EUROASTRA
                  Experienced Board Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1198

                  #9
                  Re: Motor Manuals

                  Motor Manuals
                  Attached Files
                  Please read the Forum Rules
                  Problems and questions in PM! I'll not answer!

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                  • kasper17
                    Board Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 209

                    #10
                    Re: Motor Manuals

                    And what about Mastro Jack !!??
                    Is it Original or just a Chinese child work !!?

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                    • mikelo
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1680

                      #11
                      Re: Motor Manuals

                      Originally posted by runmo
                      Can country geographic coordinates be found on the internet?
                      Is there some kind of list for the different zones?

                      regards
                      runmo
                      Dishpoiter is very good site for longitude and latitude finding for every country. On this site it's possible to find your elevation and azimuth dish for every satellite and to check if satellite is available for your location.

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                      • mikelo
                        Experienced Board Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1680

                        #12
                        Re: Motor Manuals

                        Motor manual:

                        OPTICUM - MH1 H-H Motor
                        Attached Files

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                        • mikelo
                          Experienced Board Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1680

                          #13
                          Re: Motor Manuals

                          Motor manual:

                          DMS International SG6000
                          Attached Files

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                          • mikelo
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1680

                            #14
                            Re: Motor Manuals

                            Motor manual:
                            Jaeger SMR 99G
                            Attached Files

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                            • mikelo
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1680

                              #15
                              Re: Motor Manuals

                              Motor manual:

                              DMS International SG2100
                              Attached Files

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