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**kalpikos** · 08-18-2013, 07:13 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Don't use wire to fix the pole.
You will scratch everything in the balcony and probably your friend will has problem with the landlord.
Moreover it's not safety and stable.
Use brackets for pole/balcony as in the next picture

**haramo** · 08-20-2013, 08:04 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

This has a pole and a bracket, would it fit on the balcony?

**pan1300** · 08-20-2013, 08:35 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

hi haramo

most probably yes, but I suggest you try to use 2 brackets (if you have the place to mount them, would make it more stable).

**kalpikos** · 08-21-2013, 05:06 AM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Hi haramo

This pole looks like very short
Don't forget that you need a pole of about 150cm or more.
As about the brackets, I suggest you also to use 2 or 3 in oder to be more stable.

**haramo** · 10-18-2013, 10:04 AM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

At this moment I will make time for my friend to install him the dish, as he is going to marry about two weeks :-).

So I found a 2 meter galvanized pole. This pole will be exposed to rain wind, will it maintain the same colour as in beginning? or wit it roost?

is a square inox pole better?

I will use two brackets. the baloncy's iron is 73cm long, if I put one bracket 10 cm away from the ending points , this will be ok?

**aplok** · 10-18-2013, 10:14 AM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Originally posted by haramo

At this moment I will make time for my friend to install him the dish, as he is going to marry about two weeks :-).

good idea

So I found a 2 meter galvanized pole. This pole will be exposed to rain wind, will it maintain the same colour as in beginning? or wit it roost?

galvanized zinc is ok

is a square inox pole better?

inox is perfect
green plastic reinforced with iron is good too

I will use two brackets. the baloncy's iron is 73cm long, if I put one bracket 10 cm away from the ending points , this will be ok?

yes

**haramo** · 10-18-2013, 10:41 AM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

thanks.
I just called him , but he doesnt want that a big part of the pole to stuck out the balcony.

But he has a triax 78 (70cm * 78cm). dividing 78 by 2, 39cm.
He wants a 1 meter pole. maybe I can put the pole a little bit higher from the floor, will be no problem I think?

now he maybe wants a FIXATION BALCON - L 35cm , so the balcony is empty (without the back side of the dish in the way.

So the trick is to get the 3 LNB's installed before installing the dish.

I think I will have to fix it first time near the wall, so I can install the LNB's correctly. then I put it on the place he wants it. then I only have to look for the signal of the LNB in the middle.

Time consuming ...

**aplok** · 10-18-2013, 11:07 AM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Originally posted by haramo

He wants a 1 meter pole. maybe I can put the pole a little bit higher from the floor, will be no problem I think?

you can even put it on the floor, in a flower pot !
the important point is that the sat is not hidden by an obstacle !

good idea:

Code:

                                                                        |
                                                                        X
                                                                  ----=SAT=----
                       /                                                X
                      /                                                 |
                |    |
                |=|= |
                |     \         >        /-------------\
                |      \    _ -         /               \
                |       \ _            /                 \
                |                     /|                 |\
         |......|......|               |                 |
          \...XX|XX.../                |                 |
           \..XX|XX../                ----------------------
            \.XX|XX./
             \_____/
       _______________________

bad idea:

Code:

                                                                        |
                                          /-------------\               X
                                         /               \        ----=SAT=----
                       /                /                 \             X
                      /                /|                 |\            |
                |    |                  |                 |
                |=|= |                  |                 |
                |     \         >      ----------------------
                |      \    _ -
                |       \ _
                |
         |......|......|
          \...XX|XX.../
           \..XX|XX../
            \.XX|XX./
             \_____/
       _______________________

So the trick is to get the 3 LNB's installed before installing the dish.
I think I will have to fix it first time near the wall
then I only have to look for the signal of the LNB in the middle.

fine tuning (lnb position) is easier if you can put your hand on them !
( ... with a direct view to the tv,
it is even better, to monitor the lnk position)

--- even at the end of the garden, the sat has the same elevation ! ---
--- even at an other test place, the sat has the same elevation ! ---

than fix the dish the definitive place

**gianni253** · 10-18-2013, 07:23 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

No doubt aplok is the best here for ascii art

Great pictures mate !!!

**haramo** · 10-19-2013, 05:00 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Thanks Aplok :-).

Maybe I was not clear in my explanation. My friend lives not on the ground but on the highest floor ( I think there a 3 or 4 levels in the building).

And he wants that his balcony be empty (at least not a dish inside the balcony).

Maybe he wants to put there a little table and two little chairs? I don't know didn't ask really.

He just said that he wants the balcony to be empty.

Little question. the coax cable has a certain diameter(I believe it's standard diameter for any 75 Ohm coax cable, I haven't measure it yet).

If I want to drill a whole in the wall, is it possible to drill a smaller whole than the cable and then force the cable in it?

I just want to be sure that the whole doesn't let rain and cold inside the appartment.

ofcouse I will put the coaxcable first in through the wall before putting the connections on it.

Which drill I have to use? I think the coaxcable is 6.8 mm (one mm is 0,0393700787 inch, so it's around 0,27 inch diameter).

If I use a 6 mm drill, then I scratch with e srewdriver in the whole, until the cable goes in, it's that ok?

**aplok** · 10-19-2013, 06:07 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

here are some hints:

- cable
__http://www.satlover.eu/forum/satellite-hardware/51188-the-best-you-can-get.html#post291834

... BUT
I'm absolutely sure.
The best sat cable is genuine CAVEL-703B Made in Italy with a stripe.

__http://www.cavel.it/index.php

- Flat Cable TV Coaxial connector :
to go through the window frame

__http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-Cable-Coaxial-Coupler/dp/B0002KR74A

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**pat3** · 10-19-2013, 06:22 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Originally posted by haramo

Thanks Aplok :-).

If I use a 6 mm drill, then I scratch with e srewdriver in the whole, until the cable goes in, it's that ok?

Think its better to scratch with the drill till the cable goes in. To fix the cabel an close the ends of the hole put some acrylics.

**digicon** · 10-19-2013, 07:00 PM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

6mm is far to small to push through standard coax/RG6 cable a minimum of around 8mm drill bit size would be required and even then it will be a tight fit, To be on the safe side i would say at least a 9mm

**haramo** · 10-22-2013, 08:18 AM

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This is the cable my friend bought

Aplok i already told him about the flat cable but he does not want it.

Digicon, The coax cable is 6.8mm ( see image). So i dont want to drill a whole with a 8mm drill.

Even a 7mm is to big. 6 mm and then I will make it bigger with a screwdriver, seems best.

Is it good to drill the whole under the window? It easy there then in the corner of the wall, but my friend wants the whole in the corner ,so the cable goes directly to the place he wants it.

Does the cable has to enter the appartement in a certain way?

**aplok** · 10-22-2013, 09:40 AM

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Originally posted by haramo

This is the cable my friend bought

... looks good as it is shielded with a aluminium fold

Does the cable has to enter the appartement in a certain way?

against electromagnetics hazards:
as it is shielded, it should be ok anyway

against mecanics hazards:
... take care to avoid any water, heatings pipes ...

and any elec cables ...

good rules are generally to pass through the wall inside a plastic **** tunnel as:

Code:

               wall

             |******|
             |******|
             |******|
             |******|
            \--------/
[ box ] = ----------------/  /---=[lnb]
            /--------\
             |******|
             |******|
             |******|
             |******|

some dry lubricant as talc may help
at least for the definitive position to avoid any adherences

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