which equipment is best to install dish

[haramo]

Hey

I want to have the best result with installing the dish on the balcony , so I have a 100% level.

Which kin of equipment you advise to use on this balcony? Can I adjust the equipment to make the level 100% correct?

The dish has to come in the corner, that also the south direction.

[haramo]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

The pictures on that thread are not available anymore? I only see a broken image (icon).

[gianni253]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Do you need a motorized polar mount ?
If not, why care about 100% perfect perpendicular mast pole ?
You can simply use two brackets to lock the mast pole to the balcony and with this setup you can also install a good multifeed system.

[kalpikos]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Hi haramo

You need 2 or 3 brackets for the pole which will be fitted in the corner.
It's better to use a pole with enough high for your dish.
Final, be sure that this corner is looking the satellite or the satellites you want to receive.

[haramo]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Do you need a motorized polar mount ?
If not, why care about 100% perfect perpendicular mast pole ?
You can simply use two brackets to lock the mast pole to the balcony and with this setup you can also install a good multifeed system.

No motor, just a triax multiholder with 3 LNB's.

But I have heard that signal is maximum if you dish is set up perfectly.

So I want it to be perfect ofcourse :-).

If 100% leveling is possible in this balqony, then why not go for it?

and who nows, maybe later a motor will be used, so most of the job is already done.

Hi haramo

You need 2 or 3 brackets for the pole which will be fitted in the corner.
It's better to use a pole with enough high for your dish.
Final, be sure that this corner is looking the satellite or the satellites you want to receive.

ok, and yes that is the south side. and a little bit to the left (east ) the satellite I need are there (13°, 19.2° and 23,5° ).


how much the pole has to be stick out the balcony? Let say I want to install a 1meter dish (later), then I need at least 50cm sticking out of the balcony?

from the flor to the balcony it's 73cm.

hmm, that is big héé. I hope I can find a pole with minimum 123cm lenght.

Does these long pole exist?

Hi haramo

You need 2 or 3 brackets for the pole which will be fitted in the corner.
It's better to use a pole with enough high for your dish.
Final, be sure that this corner is looking the satellite or the satellites you want to receive.

ok, and yes that is the south side. and a little bit to the left (east ) the satellite I need are there (13°, 19.2° and 23,5° ).


how much the pole has to be stick out the balcony? Let say I want to install a 1meter dish (later), then I need at least 50cm sticking out of the balcony?

from the flor to the balcony it's 73cm.

hmm, that is big héé. I hope I can find a pole with minimum 123cm lenght.

Does these long pole exist?

[digicon]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Why not just drill it into the wall behind in your photo with a standard 'L' shaped wall mount

[gianni253]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Why not just drill it into the wall behind in your photo with a standard 'L' shaped wall mount

This is not a bad idea !
With this setup you have easy access to lnbs (thing that you wouldn't have with the pole on your balcony) ... think well how important is an easy access to the front side of the dish !

[haramo]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

it's my friend place, I told him to fix it on the wall, but he don't want to drill... . I think the landlord does not allow that (he rents the place)

[kontoni]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

it's my friend place, I told him to fix it on the wall, but he don't want to drill... . I think the landlord does not allow that (he rents the place)

so is it sure that his landlord even accepts dish install on the balcony ?

anyway another practical solution could be a torroidal dish with proper lnb's for the nearby sat positions you want to receive

[gianni253]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

it's my friend place, I told him to fix it on the wall, but he don't want to drill... . I think the landlord does not allow that (he rents the place)

I can't imagine how you will be able to tune a multifeed system without easy access to lnbs ... you should pre-adjust the relative positions of the holders, then install the dish, align to the central focus ... and hope all the other focuses are ok ... really hard !

[aplok]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

I think the landlord does not allow that

try in a flower pot :

                                                       |
                                                       X
                                                 ----=SAT=----
                       /                               X
                      /                                |
                |    |
                |=|= |
                |     \         >
                |      \    _ -
                |       \ _
                |
         |......|......|
          \...XX|XX.../
           \..XX|XX../
            \.XX|XX./
             \_____/
       _______________________

[kalpikos]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

I can't imagine how you will be able to tune a multifeed system without easy access to lnbs ... you should pre-adjust the relative positions of the holders, then install the dish, align to the central focus ... and hope all the other focuses are ok ... really hard !

I fully agree with you mate

It's very difficult to adjust a multifeed system of 3 or more lnbs when the dish is right in the corner of balcony.
How you will access to lnbs?
I was thinking about 1 or lnbs but if you want to install 3 or more... it's very very difficult.
Maybe you must find another solution.

If you insist to install it in the corner, a pole of 130cm or even 120cm will be ok for the dish you have.

[pan1300]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

hi haramo

I'd use a round bar where you fix your dish on - fix the bar to the balcony with some plates and bolts, so you can easily adjust - after right installing, put a mark with the info how it all is fixed, so you can afterwards 'turn' the bar in case you need access to the dish and/or lnbs.

[haramo]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

the landlord does allow to fix it on the balcony, the neighbour under him has also a dish.

The distance between the LNB's is not a problem to fix for me, as he will buy the same dish as mine.
He lives maybe 10km further. I don't think that will be just a difference?

and I can take the multifeed out of the arm of the dish, If I really need to adjust the places of the lnb's (more left or right?). Once Astra 1 is fixed,dish is fixed, all the rest is just a lot of patience. But the 3 mentioned satellite are easy to find, I have done it a several time.

I this a good pole (diameter 48mm fine?) it's 2 meter long(adjustable lenght)



Or do I first have to calculate the space in the corner, to see if 48mm is perfect or not?

If I fix the pole somewhere else then in the corner, then it will be a less problem to adjust the LNB's on the multiholder. (see picture)

But the dish will take some space within the balcony. Will see if my friend will like this or not.



About the brackets, most brackets are wall brackets, and the balcony has only thin lines. does someone has know other kind of brackets?

Or maybe I can use ( thin)wire to fix the pole, would that not be sufficient?

hi haramo

I'd use a round bar where you fix your dish on - fix the bar to the balcony with some plates and bolts, so you can easily adjust - after right installing, put a mark with the info how it all is fixed, so you can afterwards 'turn' the bar in case you need access to the dish and/or lnbs.

plates and bolts, so I have to make a visit to the renovationstore.

I have to install it in a way so the pole is 100% leveled. I will go for it :-).

And where will you advice me to put the marks? :-)

[aplok]

Re: which equipment is best to install dish

Or maybe I can use ( thin) wire to fix the pole, would that not be sufficient?

... forget wire fixing !

do prefer bolts !

wire will not endure mechanical seasonal outdoor strengths over year(s) .

--- positioning ?

copy / paste from your neighbour ...
or ask a friend ...