TM2600 Motor Setup

[odysseas1991]

I have gone through the previous threads for the last two hours and have read all the installation guide but I have not learnt anything new to help me with the problem I have. Firstly, the receiver is a TM5402HD using USALS set up with a TM2600 motor. I have set up this exact same system for myself on a pole and reciever 92%+ signal quality on ALL satellites apart from nilesat 7w which is still very good for my area. I have achieved the perfect setup here then.
However I have a problem on setting up the same exact system for someone else who lives nearby. I did exactly the same process, but the only different is that this is on a bracket on a wall, but I have made sure that it is definitely 100% vertical with a spirit level. Anyway I then centred the motor with the dish, locked onto thor 1w and found a 94% signal quality. Then I moved to 7w and found the same signal I have at home. However, the further east or west I went the signal would drop, so hispasat and hellas sat ( two extreme opposites on east and west) would not pick up at all. It was from 28e that the signal would drop moving eastwards. I adjusted dish declination and motor elevation for so many hours but nothing worked.

Note: The only thing that I have not done in both of these installations including my own which is 100% perfect, is the step where you have to insert your latitude and longtitude into your receiver. I did not do that in mine yet it worked. I simply used thor for a reference point and everything worked.

What could be the problem considering any satellites near the reference work with 90%+ signal quality, but the further moving away the less signal. Could it be the inserting of the lat/long into reciever, and if it is, why was it not required for my personal installation? Also how do I enter this data in a TM5402HD?

Thanks
Odysseas

[odysseas1991]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Read installation guide about USALS settings

I have, I went through all the 8 pages of threads on this board. I am not doing nothing wrong (Or I don't think I am) yet for some reason I am recieving signal problems on the arc on a carbon copy setup of my own which I have set up in exactly the same way.

P.S The reciever automatically has my longitude and latitude stored in by default at 1w.

[odysseas1991]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Solution found: Right now I went back to see if I could fix the installation. I found the problem, although the bracket was perfectly straight, the upright part of the bracket that is 100% essential to be straight vertically was not. I was sold a bent bracket and was an amateur mistake.

Admins: You can close this thread or delete it entirely.

[odysseas1991]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Yes, where I am I set up the centre of the dish from thor which is 0.8w. It varies depending on your location in the world. I managed to set up my own system the same way...

[vimmers]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

good that u solved the problem
and yes everything must be 100% right a skewed bracket disturb everything

[tonybod]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

What size dish have you installed?

[odysseas1991]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

odysseas1991,

what last satellites you see in west and in east ?

I manage to get hispasat 30west all the way to 42east on turksat. I recieve everything in between including nilesat at 7west.

What size dish have you installed?

I have a 1.1m dish installed. I have a question Tonybod, I finished the installation yesterday and although everything is perfect and all the satellites are being received, just like my personal setup, I had to push the pole the dish is mounted on to recieve optimum signal. Now, I set up motor elevation to the absolute correct values, I set the dish inclination to its correct value, and I made SURE that the dish was vertically straight all the way around the circumference... Doing all of this, I then locked onto thor which is my reference point and found a 97% signal quality. However, when I tried to find nilesat and hellasat the signal was weak for hellas and non existant for nile. I tweaked and tweaked and even cut any trees to see if there was a difference. At the time the cutting of a tree improved the hellas signal instantly from 60% to 80%. But then I pushed the pole out of curiosity (It moves because the cement is not 100% secured at the moment because I plan on attaching another pole to it to adjust its position to gain optimum signal strength) and the hellas signal jumped from 80% to 97%...I went back to nile, gave it a little push in another direction and nile jumps to 60%... So then I secured it as much as I could so the pole would not move for now and went through all the satellites and found I had nearly 95% signal on everything. I then got the spirit level and found that the pole was no where near perfectly vertically straight... How does this make any sense? And why when everything was set up perfectly according the the instructions/manuals/guide and numbers did it not work? Any idea behind the theory of this would help so I can have a better understanding for next time.

Many Thanks

[tonybod]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Sounds a little strange to me.

Before you locked onto Thor, did you put in the correct lat/long in the receiver? Then tell the receiver to go to Thor and then manually move the dish left/right/up/down to get the best signal?

[odysseas1991]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Sounds a little strange to me.

Before you locked onto Thor, did you put in the correct lat/long in the receiver? Then tell the receiver to go to Thor and then manually move the dish left/right/up/down to get the best signal?

Yes, I deliberately put the motor at about 20ish degrees away from 0degrees and told the reciever to move there. Also the dish inclination is set at about 25 but according to the manual its meant to be 22.6...Whatever really, aslong as it works its fine, but it is weird and I would like to know why.

[digicon]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Just a point here that the '0' mark on the motor is for you to point the whole dish/motor mount to approx your true south position then enter your lon/lat details and drive the motor to 1 west this should be then slightly off '0'

I have seen a few home installs where i have had to go and correct because people set the '0' mark and line up exactly on 1 west LOL

[odysseas1991]

Re: TM2600 Motor Setup

Yhhh lool, I realised that later and corrected it but ultimately, no matter what I do, the dish is happy to recieve the best signal when it is not 100% dead on straight vertical. Never mind, aslong as it works thats the main thing. On that point you mentioned though, I did have it like that first, and even then it worked for all satellites but thats to be expected when its so close to 0...