Risks of cardsharing

[pan1300]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

if i understand you accurately, what you are saying is that we, the cccams users, need not worry about being traced and there is no need to use a vpn to try to hide ourselves, if that is the case i will stop using vpn since it decreases my internet speed considerably

hi again vanbasten

I agree with Satphoenix: also here (Belgium) the uploads are seareched after, and less the downloads. As I've already said somewhere and sometime before: I don't say you don't need to worry (but hey: no risk no fun , but it isn't that easy to track all 'cccam-client' users down - needs some big cooperation between the providers and the government, which isn't that easy, also there are soms laws about privacy ...

And I admit vpn slows everything down a lot (personal experience).

[vanbasten]

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When you use cs you are defenitly trackable, but who cares?
In germany we have a law against bypassing a protection system, but they search for the uploading (in case of cs the decrypted cw) and not for the downloading (request-ecm).
But I can calm all cccam-users, the cccam protocol is encrypted so that the sniffing of the traffic is useless. The cccam on both sides change a crypt-word and the traffic only starts if the encryption works.

if i understand you accurately, what you are saying is that we, the cccams users, need not worry about being traced and there is no need to use a vpn to try to hide ourselves, if that is the case i will stop using vpn since it decreases my internet speed considerably

[Satphoenix]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

When you use cs you are defenitly trackable, but who cares?
In germany we have a law against bypassing a protection system, but they search for the uploading (in case of cs the decrypted cw) and not for the downloading (request-ecm).
But I can calm all cccam-users, the cccam protocol is encrypted so that the sniffing of the traffic is useless. The cccam on both sides change a crypt-word and the traffic only starts if the encryption works.

[mahrkpat]

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VPN stands for virtual private network, so if the server is on a vpn then all
individuals have to be on the same vpn to get access to the server if you are
not then the you can't access the server.
Now if you create a vpn for your home then all the devices in your home become
invisible to the outside world but as soon as you access a server that is outside
this network say satlover for example to communicate with their server you
would have to become visible again and therefore you reveal your i.p

[gianni253]

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Except mahrkpat who has cought well the thing, I think you all are missing a detail: if cs server is not an host taking part of "your" vpn (and a public cs server can't be, obviously), you can have a vpn router, you can have a vpn network, whatever you want, but when you connect to a public cs server you can only do it using public internet, so you are trackable.

[vanbasten]

ok but only your laptop is protected if you are using a vpn correct? what about your satellite receiver? mine is connected via cable to wireless router and my laptop is connected to wifi. so i think i am exposed here even though i am using a vpn server for my internet connection

If your router support VPN then it will be for all your network, if not you have to connect your receiver to internet through your pc.

duhoki what do you mean if my router supports vpn? you mean to adjust things on the dns webpage?

[duhoki]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

thanks giann253, but does having vpn on my laptop also protect my connection from my receiver? if not is there a way to make that connection anonymous

thx

If your router support VPN then it will be for all your network, if not you have to connect your receiver to internet through your pc.

[mahrkpat]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

As an individual on your home network the only way to protect your anonymity
would be to subscribe to a proxy server. In cs VPN would only work among a
group of friends, the server and the clients would become invisible to the WAN
as to what they were doing.

[vanbasten]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

thanks giann253, but does having vpn on my laptop also protect my connection from my receiver? if not is there a way to make that connection anonymous

thx

[gianni253]

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are you sure that with vpn we are safe and by vpn i mean i have vpn on my computer but not sure how to even connect my satellite receiever through vpn to internet, is there a way?

Yes, I am sure, I know what I'm talking about.
A vpn, by definition, is something that you build up with "friends" and it's impossible to establish a vpn with a public cs server (always by definition).
A vpn is a private network where a unique system administrator has the control over all the hosts, their network config, their traffic etc. etc.
Internet of course is the network infrastructure that binds all that, but no one can enter this private network unless admin gives him the required credentials.
It a kind of "private club" !
Naturally, if you have a "spy" inside your vpn, security is broken and there is nothing you can do.

[kalpikos]

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When we talk about internet... we never are under anonymity.

I agree with you mate
You never be sure when you make cs or just surfing on the net.
Maybe you have vpn server or I don't what else, but be sure that always will be a big brother for you.

And as dear @sucan said, if they want to find you, they will do it

Many times bad news come from your friend or your neighborhood

[vanbasten]

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If they are all connected in a vpn you shouldn't be worried ... non one would be able to realize what's flowing inside your private network.
Not even f_b_i could do it, because it takes years to the most powerful supercomputers to break the safest and strongest cyphers (that's the reason why strong cryptography is forbidden in the u.s.a.)

are you sure that with vpn we are safe and by vpn i mean i have vpn on my computer but not sure how to even connect my satellite receiever through vpn to internet, is there a way?

[BlueIsMyColor]

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When we talk about internet... we never are under anonymity.

[Curiositykilledthecat]

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Your ip address is the least of your worries.it is when the courts say your provider must block certain sites,
ie: just like the torrent sites, it was laughed at only just over a year ago that they could not do it and look at it now.
So if the sat companies get their way you will get blocked and you cannot connect to forums and such sites to get your clines and keys.
The day of Big Brother is here you do not have any rights if you live in the uk or the euro zone people on exhorbinant salaries will tell you what you have to do and you must like it, they know what is best for you.

Pointless though. There will always be someone out there that can find a way around it. I mean look at PB, most internet companies in UK have blocked access to the website yet there is still a way around it.

[fandm]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

Your ip address is the least of your worries.it is when the courts say your provider must block certain sites,
ie: just like the torrent sites, it was laughed at only just over a year ago that they could not do it and look at it now.
So if the sat companies get their way you will get blocked and you cannot connect to forums and such sites to get your clines and keys.
The day of Big Brother is here you do not have any rights if you live in the uk or the euro zone people on exhorbinant salaries will tell you what you have to do and you must like it, they know what is best for you.