Sniffing

[debbe]

Hello everyone, i wanted to know if it is possible to be tr*cked through s*if tr*ffic or are all urban legends .

[kalpikos]

Re: Sniffing

Hello mate

Could you be more specific on what do you mean?
Who or what can be traced?
Is there any application or page for that?

[aplok]

Re: Sniffing

it is possible to be tr*cked through s*if tr*ffic

yes

big brother knows everything about:

- your ip connections an your ip destinations (legal records by the ips for some months)
- the content of http, ftp
- the ip of https, ftps

[gianni253]

Re: Sniffing

yes

big brother knows everything about:

- your ip connections an your ip destinations (legal records by the ips for some months)
- the content of http, ftp
- the ip of https, ftps

That's true, but you can hide the content of your ip sessions using a vpn.

[aplok]

Re: Sniffing

... hide the content of your ip sessions using a vpn.

yes, to make the link between https, ftps and vpn:

just as https and ftps scramble the content, but not the ip, of respectively http and ftp packets;

vpn scrambles all the packets (every protocols) in transit into this vpn
this is why vpn is illustrated by the so called tunnel connection (to make it simple ...)


vpn is statically defined betwen ip0( as client) and ip1(as server), with config file ...

https, ftps is similar, but light, flexible, for http and ftp contents, from ip0(client) to the cloud(https, ftps servers), without config file

[debbe]

Re: Sniffing

yes, to make the link between https, ftps and vpn:

just as https and ftps scramble the content, but not the ip, of respectively http and ftp packets;

vpn scrambles all the packets (every protocols) in transit into this vpn
this is why vpn is illustrated by the so called tunnel connection (to make it simple ...)




vpn is statically defined betwen ip0( as client) and ip1(as server), with config file ...

https, ftps is similar, but light, flexible, for http and ftp contents, from ip0(client) to the cloud(https, ftps servers), without config file

I wanted to know if it was true that providers monitor traffic and manage to go back to c#rd sh#ring

[aplok]

Re: Sniffing

I wanted to know if it was true that providers monitor traffic and manage to go back to c#rd sh#ring

cs: similar to https, ftps: ip in clear, payload info scrambled

then basic isp services
- can't read payload
- know the ip's

[bokkie]

Re: Sniffing

Even if they went to the trouble and expense of tracing you, would they really bother?
It would be the big payservers they would try to catch.

[debbe]

Re: Sniffing

Thus, using the vpn more than anything else is a protection regarding the uninvited intruders rather than a control ... but it's worth it? Since I guess this could slow down the transmission of data ..

The important is that you do not own interecettati from IPS ..

[Teranoz]

Re: Sniffing

Did you forget the scrambled signal is coming from space and not from the internet ?
The traffic for viewing cards is going only one direction from the satellite (in case cards need an update subscription activation pulse) and the other communication is from the decoder to the tuner. There is no way providers can legally check YOU are using a shared card (except in countries where all internet traffic is monitored). Only possibility is the provider might go to court to ask permission to sniff the traffic of certain people the suspect, but that is more costly than just letting you watch your tv channels and not getting money from you.

[debbe]

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Thanks you've been very clear ... I meant you exchange traffic ((3XC) or am * cam etc) I read somewhere that sample to data is analyzed by the provider (isp) seeking of information to unmask the cs and was then warned the manager of sat .. but it seemed rather improabile this thing here ..

[Teranoz]

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Maybe its common to do that in Italy if they have connections to the mafia, but in the netherlands you have to go to court and convince them to give you permission to ask the data from your isp, and they only do that here with heavy crimes (like c*prn or terr0rist activities) and not for some cardsharing-"breadcrumbs". If satproviders here ask an isp for userdata without written permission by court they get kicked out or be shown a middlefinger.

[aplok]

Re: Sniffing

... I guess this could slow down the transmission of data ..

vpn receives packet, scrambles them, and put them in normal tcp packet, from a configured ip0 to a configured ip1:



[ http + ftp + smtp + telnet + ... ]
|
|:> clear
|
[ crypto ]
|
my.public.ip
|
|:> scrambled
|
( cloud )
|
|:> scrambled
|
my.destination.ip
|
[ crypto ]
|
|:> clear
|
[ http + ftp + smtp + telnet + ... ]




slow down the transmission of data ?

no, not really, as the scrambled data needs to be transmitted any way


slow down the processing of data ?

yes, as the scrambling is required


isp interference ?

no, not at all, vpn is one common way to proceed this issue

[debbe]

Re: Sniffing

Maybe its common to do that in Italy if they have connections to the mafia, but in the netherlands you have to go to court and convince them to give you permission to ask the data from your isp, and they only do that here with heavy crimes (like c*prn or terr0rist activities) and not for some cardsharing-"breadcrumbs". If satproviders here ask an isp for userdata without written permission by court they get kicked out or be shown a middlefinger.

mafia berlusconi aahhaha

at the end you have to have more fear of the brothers exchange I think ..

4 aplok

I know very little about the vpn ... I just realized that some who have tried it have noticed a slowdown .. the max I'll make a cs between 3-4 relatives and I think it is an exaggeration to use the vpn but probably I may be wrong ..

[fandm]

Re: Sniffing

The simple answer is your ISP if they want to know every thing that you upload and download and have records of all your activity,any abnormal activity they will report to to the revalant authority.
if you mean it for card sharing and you go through a proxy server the time lag could be to long for you to distribute to your card sharers by the time it gets there and back it could be looking for the next codes.
And also remember do not distribute any lines without the permission of the real provider.
Sniffing is usually for finding wifi signals.
If it is for sat it is called fishing and by this method you do not need a ISP just a PC with a sat card but you only get what is being beamed down from the sat hat is why it is called fishing you do not know what you are going to catch.
But just the connection to say your line provider uses that little information it will not ring any bells with your ISP.