How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

[mmoloch]

Hello

I have been trying to FTP a receiver that is on a different subnetwork connected with a fon router with DDwrt on client mode... my network:

Host router ip - 192.168.1.254
PC - 192.168.1.50
Receiver 1 - 192.168.1.100

Client router with DDwrt receive from Host with 192.168.1.200 and send to receiver 2 with 192.168.2.254

Receiver 2 - 192.168.2.100

How do I get access to the receiver 2 via FTP... usually use DDC.

[vimmers]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

i am not sure but replace 2 on reciver 2 with 1 so it will be 192.168.1.111
cos the first 3 strings in ip shall be the same
and have you tried to turn dhcp on and see what happend

[gianni253]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

Hello

I have been trying to FTP a receiver that is on a different subnetwork connected with a fon router with DDwrt on client mode... my network:

Host router ip - 192.168.1.254
PC - 192.168.1.50
Receiver 1 - 192.168.1.100

Client router with DDwrt receive from Host with 192.168.1.200 and send to receiver 2 with 192.168.2.254

Receiver 2 - 192.168.2.100

How do I get access to the receiver 2 via FTP... usually use DDC.

Router in client mode has two network interfaces: one has the ip address you mentioned (192.168.1.200) on the wan side, the other must probably have the ip 192.168.2.1 (which is also the default gateway of receiver 192.168.2.100).
Your problem is that your client mode router is not a "bridged client" and there is no routing information to reach receiver 2.
To make it short, if you can't change router configuration (and add routing information or transform it in a bridged client) you can't connect to receiver 192.168.2.100.

[mmoloch]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

Changed the client router to client bridge mode and the receiver2 now is in the same subnet of the host router but it only works with the wireless security (WPA) off and seems to be unstable.

From what I've been seeing on the host router I think I can add routing information just do not know is how lol...

Host router Thomson TG784n configs:








I think I have to add a new DHCP Pool with receiver2 gateway (192.168.2.1) but do not know what to select in Interface... Am I right? What should I do to add routing information?


Edit:

After turning off the client router DHCP server and switch the wireless security on host router to WPA-PSK got everything working with client bridge mode, receiver 2 gets IP by DHCP directly from host router. I still have to do some tests to make sure everything is stable but appears to be, anyway would like to test adding routing informations to host router.

[gianni253]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

Changed the client router to client bridge mode and the receiver2 now is in the same subnet of the host router but it only works with the wireless security (WPA) off and seems to be unstable.

It' s quite a common problem because bridged client implementation is not easy for developers and I can bet that stock firmware would be very buggy.
I suggest to check for alternative firmwares, such as DD-WRT or OpenWrt, hoping that your router supports them.

From what I've been seeing on the host router I think I can add routing information just do not know is how lol...

When router is a bridged client you don't need routing information ... all clients are in the same subnet !

I think I have to add a new DHCP Pool with receiver2 gateway (192.168.2.1) but do not know what to select in Interface... Am I right? What should I do to add routing information?

No !
If routed client implementation is good (as it should be), you only need one DHCP server because the bridge is "transparent".

Edit:

After turning off the client router DHCP server and switch the wireless security on host router to WPA-PSK got everything working with client bridge mode, receiver 2 gets IP by DHCP directly from host router. I still have to do some tests to make sure everything is stable but appears to be, anyway would like to test adding routing informations to host router.

Yes, it's just confirming what I wrote above: two DHCP servers are conflicting, making network unusable.
As I said before, routing information has no sense ...

Now you only have to test if everything is stable and reliable.

Bye !

[mmoloch]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

The client router in client bridge mode is running DDWRT v24, the prints above are from the host router.

Seems to me that DDWRT works best in client mode than client bridge mode, with client router in client mode I have to add routing information but where and how?

[gianni253]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

The client router in client bridge mode is running DDWRT v24, the prints above are from the host router.

Seems to me that DDWRT works best in client mode than client bridge mode, with client router in client mode I have to add routing information but where and how?

Client mode is always more stable, with any firmware.
Routing information should be added on both routers and in client router nat/masquerading must be disabled and add firewall rule to accept all incoming connections.
It means all clients belonging to the two subnets can communicates each other, but clients behind the DD-WRT subnet will loose internet access because there is no NAT for them.
I don't think this is the solution you are looking for.
Anyway, here is the info to add routing information to routed client:
_http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/routedclient#using.routing

[mmoloch]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

You're right, is not the solution I was looking for... wanted to avoid being always shuting down and disassemble the receiver to connect to a pc to add lines. I'm still new on this "sat world", just yesterday learned how to add lines using the browser (webif), will I get access to another subnet with the router in client mode and without routing information using the browser??... during the weekend I can not test my father is always watching soccer.

[gianni253]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

will I get access to another subnet with the router in client mode and without routing information using the browser??

Same answer ... no.
Browser, telnet or ftp makes no difference ... it's always tcp/ip.
You must use bridged client.

[mmoloch]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

I "invented" a mixed method lol... got a USB mouse running in receiver 2 which also have Opera browser.

I can use DDWRT always on client mode and when I need to add lines just need to connect to DDWRT (192.168.2.1) using receiver2 and change to client bridge.

I also thought another method but do not know if it works, give a DNS address to the receiver2 and then use the DNS address to access the receiver, will it work?... the receiver is a GM 990 Spark Reloaded in Spark side.

[gianni253]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

I "invented" a mixed method lol... got a USB mouse running in receiver 2 which also have Opera browser.

I can use DDWRT always on client mode and when I need to add lines just need to connect to DDWRT (192.168.2.1) using receiver2 and change to client bridge.

Yes, it works, but what a pain ... but why can't you leave the client router in bridge client ?

I also thought another method but do not know if it works, give a DNS address to the receiver2 and then use the DNS address to access the receiver, will it work?... the receiver is a GM 990 Spark Reloaded in Spark side.

No, it doesn't work.

If you problem is only to update cccam.cfg, I have another idea for you.
Upload your updated cccam.cfg in a private web area; then, from receiver2, execute a script to receive the new cccam.cfg, and you have done ...
Script execution can by launched manually with a user plugin or scheduled with cron at desired intervals.

[mmoloch]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

In bridge client channels freeze more often than in client mode, sometimes I need to switch off the oscam plugin to get access to the receiver via FTP.

My receiver does not support CCCam, I use clines on Oscam and didn't found any scripts for Oscam

[gianni253]

Re: How to FTP receiver on different sub-network?

My receiver does not support CCCam, I use clines on Oscam and didn't found any scripts for Oscam

It's basically the same ... you won't replace cccam.cfg but oscam.server.
The most important requirement is that your receiver supports enigma or enigma2 so that you can write a busybox script and schedule it with crond.