moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

[FunkyB]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

One thing to try if you can't move the dish is adding an extra lnb to the side of the dish. To get 19e this will be to the left of the lnb on the dish when looking self. A lot of people have done this successfully in the UK to watch F1 on RTL when races are on pay tv in UK.

[cgac99]

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Before it was so easy with analog signals, now days , the receivers are a bit dumb.
I have one Pace from the Portuguese operator Meo, and he is clever, if you don't have initialy the dish in the right position, you can turn and turn your dish, even if you pass by hispasat 10x times, it won't tell you. But he will tell " No signal, contact a distributor for assistance" ( paid of course )

I also had the same problem with a Humax F1-Va.

I guess that many of users who had several receivers can tell the same.
And specialy with mini dishes , some receivers are very not sensitive in showing low signals , some of them just ring a bell when they found a huge strength of signal.

[benchsirius]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

Just to add a little more, I think it is better to move the dish horizontally first , then make any small vertical motion. If you can do so type in the frequency or find a channel list for 19.2E and pull up a free to air channel, then turn the sound up really loud on your tv, thats how I do it now. You could get a sat findermeter , they work fine so long as you aren't using disecq which I presume you are not.

Even better get a small child to yell out the quality signal to you!.

[odysseas1991]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

If your dish being shared by your neighbour then you must definitely make sure you do not alter the position!

If not, the best strategy would be this:

Get a small TV and set up your box outside with a mains extension so that you can move the dish and view the TV simultaneously.

Go into the satellite setup options and save the Astra 19east satellite and input a valid transponder that you know has a channel that works (and requires low signal quality!)

Then begin to search the sky for the satellite in roughly the direction you would expect the satellite to be being very accurate and patience in your movements.

As soon as you see a flash of signal, lock it there, scan the transponder, make sure it is the right satellite and then go and improve the signal strength and finalise the dish position!

Good luck!

[parsonline]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

commonly dvbs2 signals are weaker than dvbs and many channels from germany and france receive in astra 1m coverage of wide beam, so i think you can get channels this sat
but the rainy effect on siganl but i dont think you have serius problem for receive.

[benchsirius]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

I agree with the earlier posters , you will have no problem at all in london getting 19E signals with a mini dish, I use one at ground level propped up on an old "horn" system dish which went wrong. In fact smaller dishes have less problems with the wind and due to a smaller size. You will need to adjust the inclination a little, it will need to be tilted up a little by about 3 degrees.
You won't be able to adjust the skew settings but that won't affect anything.

[neocid38]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

Rain will definitely be a problem in London for sure... Anyway I think the ground floor neighbour is connected to the same dish so I may not be able to move it.... There is like 3 cables going out from the quad... I am right??? (2 black cables and one white going out)
will talk to the neighbour and see if he is using it....

[cgac99]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

The problem of mini dishes are that when there's heavy rain, the signal will not pass, and all signal in MPEG4 will be the firsts to go.
It's better to spend some euros ...or pounds into a dish who is at least 85cm. But if you don't have space or can't for any reason, a mini dish will catch well astra in London.
But if you try hot bird, then you need really more than a mini dish.

[pjmuk]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

Hi Neocid38,

You will have absolutely no problem getting 19e on a mini dish in London.

I have helped friends do the same for 19e, 13e and 9e with excellent results.

Once you are on 19e you will get all the sats that are in that position 1H, 2B, 2C etc. French, Spanish, German, etc.

If this is the first time you have moved a dish just be patient and don't give up trying to find it. If you have marked the original dish position it is easy to move back and try again.

[luk4asz]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

I would have tried with the dish of 60 cm. I myself have an dish 60 cm set on 13E and 19E. There are no problems with the reception of SD and HD channels. Loss of signal is five times a year when are heavy clouds in the sky.

[thecrazybandit]

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If cost is a issue try to find a used dish there loads around on the net but i would not go any smaller than 80cm for astra 19 east

[neocid38]

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In Spain it will be another story, will probably invest in motorized dish.
He I have a small dish but it's from the flat, wont take it with me.
I checked the map on kingsofsat to see the size of dish I need in London to get 19.2e and I see that there is many Astra 19.2e sats (1B, 1H etc...) is it the same? any of these will give me the Spanish and French channels?
Thanks

[KVF1966]

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if we look at the coverage map satellite Astra 19.2 degrees East, in Spain you have enough of the size of the satellite dish 60 cm, but for the reception of television channels more suitable size of 90 cm and you will not have any problems with reception.

[neocid38]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

The issue is that I plan to move in Spain soon, so I prefer to buy the less things possible.
I can easily take my skybox on the plane, but not a dish. I plan to move next january, then I would invest more once there. I can watch Uk channels without sat so it would be ok to me. Don't watch much appart from football and documentaries.
I think I will try it and if it doesn't work I will put it back 28.2e.

[Satphoenix]

Re: moving dish from 28.2°E to 19.2°E, lowcost

Hi,
I plan to move my Sky dish...

...Just don't want to buy anything if possible. (Already paying too much things)

thanks!

It's absolutly necessary to watch the signal strength while you are moving the dish. Without it won't work!

And it sounds that you have another dish. How do you watch 28,2° after moving the dish? Perhaps there's a better solution for your "project"?!