Ecm in Sky UK

[marian321]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

What about a plain oscam server with newcamd protocol enabled ?
IMHO we have at least two advantages:
- Oscam is very good in caching requests
- only two pieces of software involved, oscam on server side and cccam/mgcamd on client side.

Bye

As I said, I think there will be a prospective way to go in CS. Perhaps someday satlover changes from cccamd server to mgccam, newcam or oscam, when the other problems /e.g. resharing) will be solved.

[thecheekymonkey]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

sorry to piss on everyones chips, including the experienced members but

lets just say i have access to a few servers.

all pc servers

all with cards clocked

all run pure oscam

various , uptodate new builds

all run smargos


most on fiber broadband

ecms average normally around 80ms to 100 ms


sky hd channels currently averaging 300+ ms some going up to 500 and 600 ms


most connections via newcamd (nline) mixed.


alot of these theoretcial servers having problems, but some arent..............the plot thickens

[scooterman]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

Have been checking ecm times from two servers one C:line and one N:line since this post started,if anything ecm times are better here from both pay servers ,could be early days and knowing them they will find a way to turn the heat up.

[digicon]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

sorry to piss on everyones chips, including the experienced members but

lets just say i have access to a few servers.

all pc servers

all with cards clocked

all run pure oscam

various , uptodate new builds

all run smargos


most on fiber broadband

ecms average normally around 80ms to 100 ms


sky hd channels currently averaging 300+ ms some going up to 500 and 600 ms


most connections via newcamd (nline) mixed.


alot of these theoretcial servers having problems, but some arent..............the plot thickens

I suggest you change to Omnikey's a lot better for this type of card

[bokkie]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

My ecm's haven't really changed at all. Always averaged around 160-170 ms.

[gianni253]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

Ecm time is the final result of a chain where many factors are involved.
We can try to improve many aspects (overclock card, network/sharing protocols, balance server load etc.) but providers can send more complex ecms that takes longer to elaborate, and here there's nothing we can do ...

[marian321]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

A possible way (perhaps for cccam in future) is to save the decrypted cw in ram so that the same externel ecm can be answered faster. This might help many users.

[gianni253]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

A possible way (perhaps for cccam in future) is to save the decrypted cw in ram so that the same externel ecm can be answered faster. This might help many users.

It's something that is already working in oscam (called "ecm cache").

[marian321]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

Yes, and also in mgcamd and as far as I know in Newcamd, but not in cccam. And many servers (like satlover) use the cccam.

[thecheekymonkey]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

I suggest you change to Omnikey's a lot better for this type of card

why would i change to an older slower card reader.


avg ecm times for omnikey = 140
avg ecm times for smargo = 80

serious question, no sarcasm, give me more than just an opinion, give me something to bck it up, i have a bag of omnikeys here, but this affects all systems, with different boxes / readers configs etc etc

we need evidence not just useless opinions (dont take it the wrong way, im talking about the general hearsay on the net / forums)

[digicon]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

I know plenty of people with different setups Servers/Receivers etc... using all different types of cards but the one you mention and the apparent problems is mainly due to how can i put this Quantity on that particular Server.

I will also throw this into the mix i know a few guys with just standard Solo's/ Duo's etc no smargo and no omnikey and have not seen a rise over 200ms since all this started so i will quote the old saying " Quality over Quantity " seems to be the key

[damiensk]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

i also have been keeping an eye on the ecm's latley, cant realy say ive noticed any problems, 150-250. not ruined my goggle box viewing.

[gianni253]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

i also have been keeping an eye on the ecm's latley, cant realy say ive noticed any problems, 150-250. not ruined my goggle box viewing.

I agree, let's cross fingers, but we can't say we have seen real countermeasures yet, at least for sky*uk.

[Satphoenix]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

But the problem is that in sky_uk they send the next cw very lately before the cw changes in the stream. If only 3 or 4 users share the same card (on hop1!), this could mean short glitches for one of them, if there are more users on one card, you defenitly have glitches.

Look in the web-interface of server three or four how many users may share one card, you have the answer to this problem, even if the other providers are unused.

[easydigital]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

sky uk needs ecm times of 0.6 or lower to keep frizz free...