Ecm in Sky UK

[cannydo]

I doubt anyone will have a watchable sky uk share soon. Something to do with how the card is read/shared in oscam/cccam, it delays the ecm timing.
Everyone's ecms have gone thru the roof on HD channels, so it will be glitch city. What are yours like?

[toby69]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

no problems here yet my friend, sky spts 1hd on, ecms for me at present=203 very stable.
we wait and see.

[digicon]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

no problems here yet my friend, sky spts 1hd on, ecms for me at present=203 very stable.
we wait and see.

Thats still high and represents the increase we have seen over the last week, you should infact from a local be averaging around 145ms which includes overheads, but like anything else broadband of yourself and peer comes into affect as well.

N: lines counteract this as the CW's are cached so anyone using newcamd or mgcamd will not notice anything CCCam will be getting worse.

Another factor is users sharing from STB's they just are not fast enough a dedicated PC/laptop will help

[toby69]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

would be nice to see what other users ecms are.
question to our very knowledgeable member here, digicon, what would be the ideal entitlement control message figure???
i know this would probably depend on many factors, but lets say, ping good, server good, etc.
comments welcome.

[digicon]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

The Ideal figure would the the one i quoted above around 145ms but again broadband comes into the equation so to achieve that figure both yourself and the server would have to have a fibre connection, Ping wise your looking at below 20ms MGcamd will not have this problem as the server builds a cache of CW's before the peer end calls for them CCcam cannot do this.

Even yours at 203ms is still within reason and should still give a glitch free picture right up to around 300ms with the odd spike at that figure, again if the server is an STB then overclocking the card can help the same as having a PC/Laptop server.

[cannydo]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

So basically if your server is say a Spiderbox not a computer or an actual server with cccam you'll experience high ecm's any other cam and you might be ok?

[4dbennett]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

Yep i run cccam on Spider and sly is the only channels that glitch,

regards Dave

[bokkie]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

So then the best option would be to use mgcamd or newcamd instead of cccam?
Which would be best for clines and nlines?

[digicon]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

So then the best option would be to use mgcamd or newcamd instead of cccam?
Which would be best for clines and nlines?

Running from either newcamd or mgcamd will always be better than using Cccam

[marian321]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

A mgcamd-server or newcamd-server can answer your ecm much faster (cw is saved in ram) if someone other has requested the same cw and it didn't change (so within 5 or 10 seconds). I think this will be the future in cs because it has a better performance than cccamd.

[bokkie]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

Any advice on which of the 2 would be best?
I have several clines and an nline all running in cccam 2.2.1 at the moment.
I'm leaning towards going the mgcamd route as I looked into it before, so know more or less how it works.

[thecrazybandit]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

The spiderbox always runs better on a n line and lots freezes on a c line on sly uk for me

[gianni253]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

A mgcamd-server or newcamd-server can answer your ecm much faster (cw is saved in ram) if someone other has requested the same cw and it didn't change (so within 5 or 10 seconds). I think this will be the future in cs because it has a better performance than cccamd.

What about a plain oscam server with newcamd protocol enabled ?
IMHO we have at least two advantages:
- Oscam is very good in caching requests
- only two pieces of software involved, oscam on server side and cccam/mgcamd on client side.

Bye

[digicon]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

Any advice on which of the 2 would be best?
I have several clines and an nline all running in cccam 2.2.1 at the moment.
I'm leaning towards going the mgcamd route as I looked into it before, so know more or less how it works.

An N-line should always be run through Mgcamd as you are defeating the purpose of the faster ECM times and Cache while running it through CCcam

What about a plain oscam server with newcamd protocol enabled ?
IMHO we have at least two advantages:
- Oscam is very good in caching requests
- only two pieces of software involved, oscam on server side and cccam/mgcamd on client side.

Bye

The problem with just running Oscam with newcamd as a server is that you cannot restrict the amount of shares you give out especially if someone else is running oscam on the other end they just reshare your line and there is nothing you can do.

[gianni253]

Re: Ecm in Sky UK

The problem with just running Oscam with newcamd as a server is that you cannot restrict the amount of shares you give out especially if someone else is running oscam on the other end they just reshare your line and there is nothing you can do.

We can prevent this with "anticascading" feature of oscam.