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**Mobley3** · 07-30-2012, 10:24 AM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by odysseas1991

I wanted to understand the behaviour of satellite signals and I think this is a great satellite to ask with.

I found that the transponders: 12682 H & 0935
12694 H 9535

that the signal STRENGTH is very low in comparison to the QUALITY bar which I found very strange. The test was carried in the UK and with a TM5402HD that has a very high sensitive tuner to boost any available signal. The dish is 1.2m and picks up even Nilesat 7w at around 50-60% which is a difficult satellite to pick up.

Is there any particular reason for this?

Also another query regarding the channels from the Digea Greece package... Why are such channels so readily available with Biss keys? Surely such well encrypted channels on hotbird should not be so easily opened with BISS on this 3east satellite? Any idea why there are there and how long they will stay?

Hi I think you may have answered your own question re the Digea package. The fact that it does seem to be a difficult Bird to receive for quite a few people means that the owners don't have to invest in very expensive encryption but still stop the casual snooper. I am unable to get any of the transponders you mention, They are on the Eastern beam and looking at the charts they cut off around the Midlands. I have found that switching from Usals and nudgeing in Diseqc helps me gain better results also. The Olympic feeds are strongest for me.
Regards Mobley3

**odysseas1991** · 07-30-2012, 11:47 AM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by Mobley3

Hi I think you may have answered your own question re the Digea package. The fact that it does seem to be a difficult Bird to receive for quite a few people means that the owners don't have to invest in very expensive encryption but still stop the casual snooper. I am unable to get any of the transponders you mention, They are on the Eastern beam and looking at the charts they cut off around the Midlands. I have found that switching from Usals and nudgeing in Diseqc helps me gain better results also. The Olympic feeds are strongest for me.
Regards Mobley3

Thanks for your reply. I would like to have a link to these charts because I have never looked at them, it would be interesting to see if I am in or out of the beam. If possible, can you link me it please?

You do however pick up the satellite though? Even if you cannot get the transponders I mention?

**Mobley3** · 07-30-2012, 06:47 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by odysseas1991

Thanks for your reply. I would like to have a link to these charts because I have never looked at them, it would be interesting to see if I am in or out of the beam. If possible, can you link me it please?

You do however pick up the satellite though? Even if you cannot get the transponders I mention?

Hi, yes I do have some channels but only on the west beam Al Jazeera and also a couple of Olympic feeds and FI feed at the weekend. If you check out Lyngsat go to 3E and look over in the right hand pane as you scroll down you will see Europe and also East Europe just click on them and it will bring up the two maps which you can enlarge. hope this helps.
Regards Mobley 3

**toby69** · 07-31-2012, 01:48 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by Mobley3

Hi, yes I do have some channels but only on the west beam Al Jazeera and also a couple of Olympic feeds and FI feed at the weekend. If you check out Lyngsat go to 3E and look over in the right hand pane as you scroll down you will see Europe and also East Europe just click on them and it will bring up the two maps which you can enlarge. hope this helps.
Regards Mobley 3

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funny, 2 threads on this subject, check installation topic!
managed to get this sat 2day, greek chs alpha/ant1/alter/m.tv/star/mega/skal, also work, with right keys.

**odysseas1991** · 07-31-2012, 02:51 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by toby69

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funny, 2 threads on this subject, check installation topic!
managed to get this sat 2day, greek chs alpha/ant1/alter/m.tv/star/mega/skal, also work, with right keys.

That is great! Did you have to adjust your dish or did you find it with a bit of fine tuning?

Yeah, I opened this thread first to ask some questions about its signal strength, and also how likely the package is to stay. I found the thread in installation after but anyway that is just a general setup query of how to get a signal. I intended this thread to help me understand WHY the signal strength is weaker than the quality and also how long do you think the greek channels will open with BISS keys...

**toby69** · 07-31-2012, 04:59 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

have found myself signals vary quite a lot, biss keys, where i got them from, date posted 19/6/2012 anyones guess really how long they last!
no worries about threads my friend, yes just set up in box with new sat, number 8 i think it was, manually inputed trans numbers and nudge dish via remote.

**odysseas1991** · 08-13-2012, 10:20 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Managed to lock 79% from 55% with a dish adjustment. So it is possible to get a strong signal on here then!

**toby69** · 08-14-2012, 06:22 AM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by odysseas1991

Managed to lock 79% from 55% with a dish adjustment. So it is possible to get a strong signal on here then!

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hi odysseas1991,
couple questions if you dont mind, what size dish you using, where are you located, (approx), is your signal now strong enough for the cine chns etc.
good for you,

**Mobley3** · 08-14-2012, 09:23 AM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

This Sat really would do your head in, couple of days ago when weather was fine I managed to tweak my dish and gained 12.741H Novasport/Cinema, 12.666V Video ch1, and
12.654 H JSC Sport, all with good signal and quality. To -Day gone, now that the Olympic feed has gone on 11.138 H all I can get is the Al Jazzera Sport feed on 11.041 H.

Regards Mobley3

**toby69** · 08-14-2012, 12:05 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

feed-back always grateful mobley3, i would,ent do your head in to much with this one but always good for extra chns.
i still getting euronews, greek chns, nova cine not opening for me, but all jsc sports do,
lets hope they might strenghten signal slightly, just a fraction needed.

**thecrazybandit** · 08-14-2012, 12:24 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

just tried this sat again and i am picking up the same as everyone else the greek channels jsc sports nova film and sports

**Mobley3** · 08-14-2012, 01:57 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Decided to have quick check to see if I could improve matters, Result!!! I seem to have burned out my motor

I was nudging the motor and suddenly signal was coming and going , tried a few other sats and same thing,erratic signal then nothing. It seems that the motor was drawing too much current and took out port 1 on my diseqc switch as it no longer works either, changed diseqc port and now only have 13E and 28E. looks like I will be buying a new motor.
My apologies for straying off thread

Regards Mobley3

**toby69** · 08-14-2012, 02:04 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

Originally posted by Mobley3

Decided to have quick check to see if I could improve matters, Result!!! I seem to have burned out my motor

I was nudging the motor and suddenly signal was coming and going , tried a few other sats and same thing,erratic signal then nothing. It seems that the motor was drawing too much current and took out port 1 on my diseqc switch as it no longer works either, changed diseqc port and now only have 13E and 28E. looks like I will be buying a new motor.
My apologies for straying off thread

Regards Mobley3

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opps mobley3
sometimes chasing some birds to much hassle, for me to get i just nudged from 5east, to 3c 3east onto live but very weak trans number and left at that, as you know now

you very easily up-set your existing set-up.
good luck mobs with new motor.

**thecrazybandit** · 08-14-2012, 03:05 PM

Re: Eutelsat 3C 3.1east & Signal Strength & Digea Greece

thats bad new you burnt out your motor the things we do just to get that weak signal

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