Vu+uno or Vu+duo?

[happy camper]

Hi still researching Linux checking out Vu,s at the moment,looking good.
Does the duo require a twin lnb and two coax from the dish?.Thanks..
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[toby69]

Re: Vu+uno or Vu+duo?

Hi still researching Linux checking out Vu,s at the moment,looking good.
Does the duo require a twin lnb and two coax from the dish?.Thanks..
.

no think it is something to do about tuners, duo tuner. twin lnb not reguired

[LORDI]

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I have Vu+ Duo box, and not necesary twin lnb.
Duo box, have dual tuner. You can see one channel by tv, and another channel from your pc, for example.
Salu2

[digicon]

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Hi still researching Linux checking out Vu,s at the moment,looking good.
Does the duo require a twin lnb and two coax from the dish?.Thanks..
.

the Vu+ Duo does have twin tuners and is about as close to a sky+ HD box as you will get, Most installations will have a motorised dish input on Tuner A and on Tuner B a feed from your sky dish if you have one installed.

This will give you the option to either record from say a sky channel on tuner B which leaves Tuner A free to either watch a channel from another satellite or from sky itself.

if you only have a sky dish then you would benefit from both feeds to your dish so you could watch and record.

if you just have a motorised dish then i would suggest you invest in a 2 output LNB such as the Inverto Ultra Black Dual LNB this will give you the same watch & record facility as a sky dish but from different satellites.


The Uno is the newer specced model it has upgraded processor and better broadcom video chip to allow PIP facility but only has a single tuner so no ability to watch 1 channel and record another only if they are on the same transponder.

[happy camper]

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Thanks for comprehensive reply digicon,I do have a motorized system currently using spidebox9000HD .If i were to fit a twin lnb how would it be wired ?as the motor only has one feed in from stb and one out to single lnb?
Any explaination much apreciated. Thanks...

[toby69]

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very good write up digicon, must admit these boxes all quite new to myself, with chaps like you learning all the time, yes thats a good ques happy camper, motorised system an fixed dish on sky. strange, somebody will help.

[happy camper]

Re: Vu+uno or Vu+duo?

the Vu+ Duo does have twin tuners and is about as close to a sky+ HD box as you will get, Most installations will have a motorised dish input on Tuner A and on Tuner B a feed from your sky dish if you have one installed.

This will give you the option to either record from say a sky channel on tuner B which leaves Tuner A free to either watch a channel from another satellite or from sky itself.

if you only have a sky dish then you would benefit from both feeds to your dish so you could watch and record.

if you just have a motorised dish then i would suggest you invest in a 2 output LNB such as the Inverto Ultra Black Dual LNB this will give you the same watch & record facility as a sky dish but from different satellites.


The Uno is the newer specced model it has upgraded processor and better broadcom video chip to allow PIP facility but only has a single tuner so no ability to watch 1 channel and record another only if they are on the same transponder.

Hi I understand that sky + hd use twin coax and twin lnb or quad lnb.So I assume that vu duo would have to do same? Would I be better to keep my set up as is?and take a feed from a spare connection of the wifes sky dish (quad) to tuner B on the Vu duo? Thanks...

[rick_o]

Re: Vu+uno or Vu+duo?

the Vu+ Duo does have twin tuners and is about as close to a sky+ HD box as you will get, Most installations will have a motorised dish input on Tuner A and on Tuner B a feed from your sky dish if you have one installed.

This will give you the option to either record from say a sky channel on tuner B which leaves Tuner A free to either watch a channel from another satellite or from sky itself.

if you only have a sky dish then you would benefit from both feeds to your dish so you could watch and record.

if you just have a motorised dish then i would suggest you invest in a 2 output LNB such as the Inverto Ultra Black Dual LNB this will give you the same watch & record facility as a sky dish but from different satellites.


The Uno is the newer specced model it has upgraded processor and better broadcom video chip to allow PIP facility but only has a single tuner so no ability to watch 1 channel and record another only if they are on the same transponder.

so does this mean that you would need a c-line for each tuner ?

[fandm]

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You may not be able to do that, you would have to ask the server if recieving two diffrent transponders.would be like have 1 line for two boxes

[happy camper]

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Hi fandm on digicons post I thought that was what he was saying more experienced members do to use the two tuners on the vu duo?

[digicon]

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Thanks for comprehensive reply digicon,I do have a motorized system currently using spidebox9000HD .If i were to fit a twin lnb how would it be wired ?as the motor only has one feed in from stb and one out to single lnb?
Any explaination much apreciated. Thanks...

OK lets try to answer simple as possible, First off do you have a standard sky dish at your property as well as your motorised system. if the answer is Yes then the following is the most popular setup for the Duo or any other twin tuner receiver.

So on the Duo for example you would connect Tuner A to your motorised single output LNB, in the settings you would select simple: USALS and then enter your longitude and latitude settings and save. thats tuner A dealt with.

On Tuner B you would connect a spare feed from your sky dish to tuner B then in the settings menu again Select Simple: Single Satellite: Astra 28.2e and save that.

and your all done so if your watching sky for instance your Duo would correctly select the Tuner B configuration and you would be watching sky, now on your motorised dish you would just select any other sat apart from 28.2 and so the Duo automatically selects tuner A and your watching whatever channel on another satellite, if you instantly go back to Sky the duo again chooses Tuner B all the time for 28.2 as this is configured in the menu for Sky only.

Now if you where to watch something on 28.2 say a movie channel and you wanted to record it then you set your timer or press instant record and thats it if you want to watch another channel on sky while recording one of the movie channels then select your channel and the Duo will automatically select Tuner A and move your motorised dish to 28.2 because tuner B is busy recording.


the other config with just say 1 motorised satellite with a dual LNB then one feed as normal gets looped to the motor and your other feed goes straight from your LNB and into your Box so Tuner A will be setup as above but tuner B will be set as "second cable of Motorised dish".

Now the only downfall with this setup is because you only have 1 dish with 2 feeds then you can only watch and record from the same satellite, where as with the previous one with a sky dish you could record anything on sky and that frees up your motor dish to watch any other satellite.

Now for the servers question most will not mind you recording one channel and then watching another as the ECM's from your ip will only shoot up a little if you did this all day long then i think they would get suspicious and think you where using the same line on 2 receivers.

[happy camper]

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Once again digicon superb and clear reply,It all confirms to me what I was thinking of for my set up.All down once again which linux duel tuner to go for?

[toby69]

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can understand things a lot more now, if it wasent for people like digicon, or better if you had a friend using this particular box, you would be very confused at what to purchase, as when you look into buying details only show basic information.
the spiderbox manual which came with my box not to helpful, but only basic box so no problems, but no doubt would be for newbee.

[digicon]

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This is the big question now which Twin tuner box to go for, well i may be able to help there a little as i have owned a Duo & Xtrend ET9000 so roughly around the same price range.

the Duo is equipped with a Broadcom 7335 processor and chipset which is a great box its now coming up to just over 2 and half years old so as we all know technology moves fsat in the electronics world, But the duo has plenty of support and is probably more popular than the DM8000 with its Quad tuners. Summary: Still going strong has a large user database and lots of third party images.

The Xtrend ET9000 or now 9200 uses a Broadcom 7413 processor and chipset so straight away is faster than the duo has more ram 512 on Xtrend compared to 256 on duo and has larger flash memory 256 on Xtrend only 128 on duo, with the new 7413 chipset picture quality is slightly better and also adds Pictue in Picture functionality something which the duo lacks, Also has HBBTV web viewing built in to plugins allows you to watch free HD channels through the Internet rather than a dish. Summary: only about 12 months old has a large following and does have a lot of 3rd party images not as much as the duo but slowly catching up.

Summary: VU+ Duo around £319 and Xtrend ET9200 around £359.

Now to throw a spanner in the works Clones have now become available for the Duo at around £190 so your saving £129 these have had a warning but i know 2 people with them and have been informed although its early days they work with Official images but only images before the last driver update around the 12th of december, So you do have a lot of images to choose from that will work great on the Duo.

there has been a lot of bad press about the clones but look at it this way, a clone DM800se costs around £160 from china delivered the original costs £429 so i can see the point but the 800se is only a single tuner where as for £30 more you get a far superior box with dual tuners that will run official images from last year where as the 800se has to rely on clone adapted images.

I am sorely tempted myself to get one of these Duo clones i have an 800se clone and its been great but for the extra outlay its very tempting.

the choice is yours if you can afford the £300+ then for piece of mind get an original no question, i just picked up a VU+ Ultimo last week at a cost of around £529 and i love it.

[happy camper]

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Hi again digicon,just when I thought It was safe to break the piggybank and go shopping ,you do indeed put a spanner in the works more choices.?
Would it be easier for me to go for Vu duo as a first Linux progressing from spider, as a lot of software is loaded with usb same as spider. Thanks...