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  • metehan47
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 35

    combine my satellites???

    hello!
    there is my problem

    I have a dreambox 500s.


    There are my apartment centrically 2 satellite system (42e, 13e)
    (with a single cable coming from the).


    I have a satellite in the my balkony



    I would like to combine my satellite to this with the central system.



    but , I don't combine this two cable.


    1- I tried combine using by the Option switch (EMP 162-D).


    But, one of the satellites(13e) did not show.

    2- I tried combine using by the 1/4 DiseqC Switch

    But, one of the satellites(13e) did not show.

    what can I do about it? please help me!!

  • pat3
    Board Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 232

    #2
    Re: combine my satellites???

    seems impossible for me.

    You have to connect the 3 satellites with a diseqc switch.
    Please push thanks. :)

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    • digicon
      Experienced Board Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 917

      #3
      Re: combine my satellites???

      As pat3 has explained you need a 3/1 diseqc switch which will allow all 3 sats to be connected via 1 cable, You will of course have to set up your DM500 for diseqc mode in the menu as well.

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      • vimmers
        Experienced Board Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 1179

        #4
        Re: combine my satellites???

        u have to manually set it up in your dreambox
        remember which port on the diseqc 4/1 u use
        something like A,B,C,D
        but on your pic are only 1 cable with the 2 satellites
        so u have to configure in advanced mode in your dreambox
        and i think that if u use both diseqc u shall
        use lnb 1 and 2
        then jump down to lnb 5 configuration
        like this
        LNB 1:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: AA
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 2:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: AB
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 3:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: BA
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 4:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: BB
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 5:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: AA
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input2
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 6:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: AB
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input2
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 7:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: BA
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input2
        DiseqC Repeats: One

        LNB 8:

        Configuration Mode: Advanced
        Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
        LNB: Lnb1
        Priority: Auto
        LOF: Universal Lnb
        Voltage Mode: Polarization
        Increased Voltage: No
        Tone Mode: Band
        DiseqC Mode: 1.1
        Tone Burst: None
        Committed DiseqC Command: BB
        Fast DiseqC: Yes
        Sequence Repeat: Yes
        Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
        Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input2
        DiseqC Repeats: One

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        • metehan47
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 35

          #5
          Re: combine my satellites???

          Originally posted by vimmers
          u have to manually set it up in your dreambox
          remember which port on the diseqc 4/1 u use
          something like A,B,C,D
          but on your pic are only 1 cable with the 2 satellites
          so u have to configure in advanced mode in your dreambox
          and i think that if u use both diseqc u shall
          use lnb 1 and 2
          then jump down to lnb 5 configuration
          like this
          LNB 1:

          Configuration Mode: Advanced
          Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
          LNB: Lnb1
          Priority: Auto
          LOF: Universal Lnb
          Voltage Mode: Polarization
          Increased Voltage: No
          Tone Mode: Band
          DiseqC Mode: 1.1
          Tone Burst: None
          Committed DiseqC Command: AA
          Fast DiseqC: Yes
          Sequence Repeat: Yes
          Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
          Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
          DiseqC Repeats: One

          LNB 2:

          Configuration Mode: Advanced
          Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
          LNB: Lnb1
          Priority: Auto
          LOF: Universal Lnb
          Voltage Mode: Polarization
          Increased Voltage: No
          Tone Mode: Band
          DiseqC Mode: 1.1
          Tone Burst: None
          Committed DiseqC Command: AB
          Fast DiseqC: Yes
          Sequence Repeat: Yes
          Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
          Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
          DiseqC Repeats: One
          dear vimmers, Thank you for your interest. The information you gave for dr500hd, my dereambox is 500 s

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          • vimmers
            Experienced Board Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 1179

            #6
            Re: combine my satellites???

            its the same my friend
            doesn't matter what dreambox it is inside everything are the same
            by that i mean the configuration options

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            • metehan47
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 35

              #7
              Re: combine my satellites???

              Originally posted by vimmers
              u have to manually set it up in your dreambox
              remember which port on the diseqc 4/1 u use
              something like A,B,C,D
              but on your pic are only 1 cable with the 2 satellites
              so u have to configure in advanced mode in your dreambox
              and i think that if u use both diseqc u shall
              use lnb 1 and 2
              then jump down to lnb 5 configuration
              like this
              LNB 1:

              Configuration Mode: Advanced
              Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
              LNB: Lnb1
              Priority: Auto
              LOF: Universal Lnb
              Voltage Mode: Polarization
              Increased Voltage: No
              Tone Mode: Band
              DiseqC Mode: 1.1
              Tone Burst: None
              Committed DiseqC Command: AA
              Fast DiseqC: Yes
              Sequence Repeat: Yes
              Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
              Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
              DiseqC Repeats: One

              LNB 2:

              Configuration Mode: Advanced
              Satelitte: Your Choice of sat position
              LNB: Lnb1
              Priority: Auto
              LOF: Universal Lnb
              Voltage Mode: Polarization
              Increased Voltage: No
              Tone Mode: Band
              DiseqC Mode: 1.1
              Tone Burst: None
              Committed DiseqC Command: AB
              Fast DiseqC: Yes
              Sequence Repeat: Yes
              Command Order: Committed,Uncommitted,Toneburst
              Uncommitted DiseqC Command: Input1
              DiseqC Repeats: One
              These settings did not work. still, sat2 (13e) did not show. some channels of the other two satellites are not show

              my settings is this :









              These settings did not work. still, sat2 (13e) did not show. some channels of the other two satellites are not show

              Comment

              • whinpo
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 176

                #8
                Re: combine my satellites???

                what is weird is that it seems to be always Hotbird that doesn't appear...
                just to be sure : on your drawing, it seams sat1 & sat2 are connected together. when you connect sat1 & 2 to the disecq, the LNB are directly connected to the switch (nothing is connected between the LNB's and the switch?)

                do sat1 & 2 work under the standard dbox disecq configuration?

                on the custom configuration
                what happens if you cross the cables on the switch (and in the conf...)? doest Turksat disappear and Hotbird appear?

                Comment

                • nev
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Re: combine my satellites???

                  This problem is the same as that discussed on a number of other forums - to combine a monoblock LNB with another single LNB. Although some people report success using a combiner which has DC pass-through most people including me have had no success. The only way of doing this electronically would be by using an "uncommitted" disecq switch. These are not easy to find and are expensive. A cheaper but not quite as satisfactory way is to use an A-B manual switch. You can locate this near to your receiver but it does mean getting up out of your chair to change satellites. Hope this helps.

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                  • whinpo
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 176

                    #10
                    Re: combine my satellites???

                    he didn't mention any monobloc?
                    I think there are 3 LNB's, and 3 dishes, aren't it?

                    Comment

                    • vimmers
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1179

                      #11
                      Re: combine my satellites???

                      Originally posted by whinpo
                      he didn't mention any monobloc?
                      I think there are 3 LNB's, and 3 dishes, aren't it?
                      right but we don't know what kind of dieseq he use now
                      he does mention EMP 162-D an a 4/1
                      as far i have read about EMP 162-D
                      its just a ordinary diseq
                      but metehan47 if u can then only use the diseq 4/1

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                      • nev
                        Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 38

                        #12
                        Re: combine my satellites???

                        The key point is that conventional disecq switches cannot operate in cascade. I understood the diagram in the first post to show that there was already a disecq switch installed which could not be accessed or changed by metehand47. If he could then replacing it with a conventional 4 input diseqc switch would solve the problem.

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                        • metehan47
                          Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 35

                          #13
                          Re: combine my satellites???

                          Originally posted by nev
                          The key point is that conventional disecq switches cannot operate in cascade. I understood the diagram in the first post to show that there was already a disecq switch installed which could not be accessed or changed by metehand47. If he could then replacing it with a conventional 4 input diseqc switch would solve the problem.
                          a conventional 4 input diseqc switch ?????

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                          • nev
                            Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 38

                            #14
                            Re: combine my satellites???

                            By "conventional" I mean a committed switch which most satellite stores sell for around £10. They come with either 2 or 4 inputs. They require you to use diseqc 1.0 which almost all receivers will have. In fact you must already be using diseqc 1.0 with the existing setup. If you were to use a 4-input switch you would somehow have to remove the existing switch which combines the inputs from the two satellites you already have, replace it with a committed diseqc switch, connect the two existing cables and also connect in your new cable from the LNB on your new dish. However I read your original request to mean that you did not have access to the switch which combines the two existing satellite inputs. Hence my suggestion of a manual mechanical A-B switch, also available from satellite accessory suppliers at modest cost.

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                            • vimmers
                              Experienced Board Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1179

                              #15
                              Re: combine my satellites???

                              he probably refer to your pic in that there are 2 diseqs
                              and that also why i am asking about u only can use the 4/1 diseqs
                              drop the other 1

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