8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

[iliyavet]

Hi to all.
My question is:Is ProgDVB(or DVBViewer,DVBDream) also skystar2 hd usb can support Diseq with 8 ports?
Because in setup diseq menu on these programs i see only setup for 4 ports?
Currently I am with 4 LNB without any problems,but I want to buy 2 or 4 more LNB's in future to extend my multifeed,but I don't know is this possible with my hardware and software?
Regards

[zoran89]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

Iam know that DVBviewer can. But I couldnt find any tutorial how to do.

[KVF1966]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

SkyStar2 supports diseqc 1.0 , for 8 port diseqc you need a Protocol diseqc 1.1. So perhaps you will not be able to set it up. Have the option to buy SkyStar3. There is support for up to 16 ports.

[iliyavet]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

Iam know that DVBviewer can. But I couldnt find any tutorial how to do.

I don't think so .Look here ___http://www.dvbviewer.com/griga/TransEdit%20E/DiSEqC.html

They says : PosA/OptA...PosB/OptB: These settings (also called Input 1...4) refer to the common DiSEqC 1.0 commands for switching between up to four different satellite positions.
Maybe we have to install some kind of plugin,or something to support up to 8 LNB Diseq,....i don't know

[mirny]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

dvbviewer/transedit look for diseqc-extended-commited/uncommited
altdvb, sattelite-edit-diseqc switc-commited/uncommited-option
both up to 64LNBs
ProgDVB didnt test

[zoran89]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

I don't think so .Look here ___http://www.dvbviewer.com/griga/TransEdit%20E/DiSEqC.html

They says : PosA/OptA...PosB/OptB: These settings (also called Input 1...4) refer to the common DiSEqC 1.0 commands for switching between up to four different satellite positions.
Maybe we have to install some kind of plugin,or something to support up to 8 LNB Diseq,....i don't know

No, like mirny said there is something to do with commited/uncommited option.

http://i.imgur.com/hqzbSgS.jpg

[mirny]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

and for DVB Dream I found this:

14. How To Access More Than Four Inputs/Satellites?
DiSEqC x.1 compliance allows Committed values 1-4 and Uncommitted values 0-15 yielding 64 input paths with full lnb(f) control. First setup all final Committed inputs 1 to 4, in the current GUI: OPTIONS—>Diseqc—>V1.0 or V2.0—>Port 1 (thru Port 4) repeating ADD SATELLITE as many times as necessary for each Committed port. Then use the PROPERTIES—>UNCOMMITTED tab to set the Uncommitted 0-15 value. GUI is subject to change in the future.

so it should work with this sw either.

[besit]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

1. Your card is not skystar2, it's modern skystar usb hd. I got the same card.
2. This card perfectly work with diseqc 1.1 unlike tevii s660 (my other card)
3. Depending on your diseqc switch model it may understand different diseqc command sets, if it undersands x.0 command set it will switch between 1-4 inputs using PosA/OptA...PosB/OptB. If it only support x.1 command set, it will switch between 1-8 ports using uncommitted 1-8 option. Appears your switch works in x.0 mode now.

So
I'd recommend you first to try to change protocol to x.1
I use dvbviewer myself
It has a kind a dubious setting for this.
Open channel list editor, and select a corresponding root. You will see something the like this

In diseqc field choose extended, type sat position (in my case 36 e), press
edit,
You will see diseqc editor window like this

In address field choose switch, command - uncommitted input 1 then press Insert - OK

If you want to change input to 2 or other number, you will need to change input and press Change - OK. Pressing only OK button doesn't change value - it's a common mistake.
Then (optional) if you use round polarization like me, change lof1 and lof2 values to 10750 and lof sw to 0 then press OK. If you use line polarization - leave default values.
Then press APPLY - if you will simply close window - it won't remember your settings - common mistake.

Change all 4 of your sat roots this way and try to switch cannels. If everything's ok, try to connect one of your lnbf to one of inputs 5-8, chnge value in diseqc editor and try to switch channels.
If everything's ok - you may go to sat shop and buy 4 more lnbf and use them.

[mirny]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

If you want to change input to 2 or other number, you will need to change input and press Change - OK. Pressing only OK button doesn't change value - it's a common mistake.
Then (optional) if you use round polarization like me, change lof1 and lof2 values to 10750 and lof sw to 0 then press OK. If you use line polarization - leave default values.
Then press APPLY - if you will simply close window - it won't remember your settings - common mistake.

because of this you'll better set it up in Transedit!
it's saving changes, you can analyze transponders and
there's a channel preview too.

[iliyavet]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

Hello again. I tried steps explained by *besit ,and they are working good with DVBViewer(my version is 4.8.1.0), but DVBViewer sometimes crash(not always but some days several times on hour) ,not work stable.It is good program,but i use ProgDVB too - and I realise ProgDVB is much stable than DVBViewer. That's way before i go to sat shop to buy 4 more LNB and 8-port Diseq(it will cost about 60-70 euro),I want to find out,how to setup(it is possible) to use it on ProgDVB(Last days i searched on web,but nothing found).
But for me here on satlover forum i will get the best answers,for all about sat-tv
Best Regards to all members!

[besit]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

Hello again. I tried steps explained by *besit ,and they are working good with DVBViewer(my version is 4.8.1.0), but DVBViewer sometimes crash(not always but some days several times on hour) ,not work stable.It is good program,but i use ProgDVB too - and I realise ProgDVB is much stable than DVBViewer. That's way before i go to sat shop to buy 4 more LNB and 8-port Diseq(it will cost about 60-70 euro),I want to find out,how to setup(it is possible) to use it on ProgDVB(Last days i searched on web,but nothing found).
But for me here on satlover forum i will get the best answers,for all about sat-tv
Best Regards to all members!

I'd guess that those dvbviewer crashes are not a fault of dvbviewer, but Skystar USB HD with BDA drivers (if you use bda)
To work with technisat cards you need wdm drivers and win xp.
Or even Linux, they say these cards work perfectly in Linux (I haven't chance to check)
Standard version of ProgDVB does not work with diseqc at all.
If I'll find a working version of ProgDVB pro, I will try it and make a report.

[iliyavet]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

I'd guess that those dvbviewer crashes are not a fault of dvbviewer, but Skystar USB HD with BDA drivers (if you use bda)
To work with technisat cards you need wdm drivers and win xp.

besit , maybe you are right about BDA-drivers and dvbviewer.Yes ,now I use BDA driver.But I use also Windows 7,You wrote about wdm and win XP.Is it possible and which kind of driver have to use,on win7 to improve stability on dvbviewer.What you recommend me?I don't want to downgrade to win xp because of only one driver.I remember that before my present windows 7 installation ,one time when I installed windows 7 ,and all program(ect.,skystar with installation disc,dvb-programs,codes),windows update find me one driver for my ss2 hd usb,and I install it ,but I made a mistake-after that driver from microsoft ,pictures of all my dvb programs gone worst.That's way now i used tehnisat publisher driver.
Now picture is exellent,but that crashes on dvbviewer sometimes i want to fix.
Regards

[mirny]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

I don't want to downgrade to win xp because of only one driver

you don't need to downgrade, you can make a dual boot,
win xp and win7 on one computer, i've got it like this, mainly when i want to use old cards without win7 drivers, it's quite usefull.

dvbviewr sometimes crash to me aswell, mainly when i loose signal then it crash, otherwise its stable, i mean in win7 with bda drivers

[besit]

Re: 8 port Diseq with dvb-programs?

besit , maybe you are right about BDA-drivers and dvbviewer.Yes ,now I use BDA driver.But I use also Windows 7,You wrote about wdm and win XP.Is it possible and which kind of driver have to use,on win7 to improve stability on dvbviewer.What you recommend me?I don't want to downgrade to win xp because of only one driver.I remember that before my present windows 7 installation ,one time when I installed windows 7 ,and all program(ect.,skystar with installation disc,dvb-programs,codes),windows update find me one driver for my ss2 hd usb,and I install it ,but I made a mistake-after that driver from microsoft ,pictures of all my dvb programs gone worst.That's way now i used tehnisat publisher driver.
Now picture is exellent,but that crashes on dvbviewer sometimes i want to fix.
Regards

Screwy technisat BDA drivers is a kind a well known problem.
common track mind:
"win7 doesn't support wdm - technisat kards work unstable with bda - so technisat kards incompatible with win7"
I used Tevii 660 usb card for a long time, then it broke and I bought Skystar USB HD, it's a last technisat product, younger then SkyStar USB 2 HD CI, like Mirny use. These two cards are absolutely different. Newer card works ONLY with 4.6.0 drivers. Older works with also older drivers. Technisat wrote 4.7 drivers, but they are not just UNSTABLE, they are absolutely unpredictable. At least I can say it concerning win xp. You may try it for win 7, maybe they will work better. These drivers are intended for Skystar 2eXpress HD, but they has a record for Skustar USB UD in inf.
_ftp://tsdownload:JP7g5hVD@ftp1.technisat.de/assets/medias/common/22/soft_deenfritpl_Skystar-2-express-hd_001.zip
These drivers are BDA only. Wdm drivers in this package are only intended for sat internet purposes and unable to work with DVB.

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8 port Diseq with dvb programs

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