Max number of clients on clone DM500

[f1fan]

I bought a clone DM500 on eBay just so I could have a play around and see if I could share my $ly card to my Openbox S10 across the house, amazingly I actually got it to work.

So then I had the idea of sharing with a select group of friends and share the sub cost between us.

So my question is, how many clients (friends receivers) would something like my clone DM500 be able to cope with before the dreaded picture freezing?

[Satphoenix]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Calculate 5 or 6 client receivers until you get freezes.

But this depends more on the card and not the receiver (as far as I know).

[f1fan]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Is it also dependent on which channels each client is watching? For example, if everyone was watching the same sports channel could you more clients?

[Satphoenix]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Depends on the cam-software.
Some of them keep the decrypted cw in ram so that the ecm-requests can be answered much faster without using the card.

[gianni253]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Oscam as cardserver. Mgcamd as protocol. Whatever emu you like on clients.
With this scenario (and a good network connection), 20 clients can run smoothly.
But my suggestion is trying to increase gradually the number of clients, starting from 10.
Much depends on clients' habits too, so every situation is worth to be tested.

[f1fan]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Currently running CCCam on Commando 14.7. Have 70mbps DL and 18mbps UL Internet connection.

Is Oscam much better than CCCam?

[kalpikos]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Currently running CCCam on Commando 14.7. Have 70mbps DL and 18mbps UL Internet connection.

Is Oscam much better than CCCam?

You can stay with cccam, but with oscam you will have better results.
I think that you can add 15 - 20 clients without problem.
Just keep adding until ecms shoot up.

[aplok]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

your can monitor the dm500 cpu load with the console command

top -d 2

with 2 for a 2 sec tempo

[gianni253]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

... Is Oscam much better than CCCam?

With regard to this specific application ... yes, it is: oscam can cache clients requests, cccam can't.
It means when all 20 clients will be watching the same channel (a football match, for example) oscam will return ecm times as low as when you have one single client attached; cccam won't be able to manage this load.

[f1fan]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Looks like I'll be trying to setup Oscam then. I've used it as a client on a Mac before but not as a server on a DM500.

Last point, I hope, I used CCCam because it was quite easier but mainly because I understood you need CCCam to decrypt the $ly card and most importantly transfer the keep-alive signal to the card.

Does Oscam do this? Should I leave CCCam running as well as Oscam or uninstall CCCam from the receiver?

[gianni253]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Looks like I'll be trying to setup Oscam then. I've used it as a client on a Mac before but not as a server on a DM500.

Last point, I hope, I used CCCam because it was quite easier but mainly because I understood you need CCCam to decrypt the $ly card and most importantly transfer the keep-alive signal to the card.

Does Oscam do this? Should I leave CCCam running as well as Oscam or uninstall CCCam from the receiver?

Just uninstall cccam, you really don't need it on the server side.
Oscam alone is able to manage all you need (card server and autoupdate).

[Satphoenix]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

...With this scenario (and a good network connection), 20 clients can run smoothly.

...I think that you can add 15 - 20 clients without problem.

20 clients on one card?

Sorry, but for me that's much to optimistic.

[kalpikos]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

20 clients on one card?

Sorry, but for me that's much to optimistic.

xmm...
maybe you are right, because it's only one card

I think that the best way is to start adding clients until you get bad ecm times.
For the start you can add 10 clients and make some tests.

If you see good ecms and the clients are free of freezing or glitching then you can add 5 more clients and make again the necessary tests.

[Satphoenix]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

In german boards it is written about a maximum of 5 or 6 clients untill the freezes begin - with one card.
If all watch the same channel and the ecm is in ram, surely more is possible, but if everyone watches a different channel, the problems beginn.

[f1fan]

Re: Max number of clients on clone DM500

Hmmm I was kind of hoping to make 10 as it would make the sub cost £5 each, though at the moment I only have 2 or 3 friends that would like to join in so 5-6 would be ok.

So being a bit of a newbie to this, how do proper servers cope with more than 5 - 6 clients? Do they need lots of cards or can you get more clients by having better hardware?