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**gianni253** · 03-21-2013, 10:54 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by kalpikos

Let's say that tomorrow I'm buying a dm800se with A8P sim,
and few months later DMM makes a driver update or makes an image with bomb,
as already did with dm500s, that makes my box stop working and damage my card.

My question is:

can I buy a new 2.10 sim to put it in the box ?
Does The only difference between two boxes is only the card ?
Are they have common hardware ?
or each box is builded for using only a dedicated card ?

I don't think dmm will ever be able to damage sim (or any other hardware part).
You can change sim whenever you want.
No, minor hardware differences still exist, but it's very hard to exploit them to develop timebombs.
For instance, mac address test (used for dm500s timebomb) can be easily circumvented.
In the worst case, jtag will bring the box back to life.

**kalpikos** · 04-01-2013, 06:17 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Can this sim works with sunray4 sr4 800se triple tuner?
I haven't seen so far to sell this box together with a8p sim.
Is it possible to works?

**gianni253** · 04-01-2013, 06:51 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by kalpikos

Can this sim works with sunray4 sr4 800se triple tuner?
I haven't seen so far to sell this box together with a8p sim.
Is it possible to works?

I guess it should work, but only after some adaptation, because if you install an original image by dmm then you also have have to install drivers of the triple tuner, because it's not original hardware.
There is no reason why it shouldn't work, though I wouldn't go this way.

**kalpikos** · 04-17-2013, 08:10 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

I was looking on a very known online chinese shop to buy this a8p sim, until I found this in product details:

"support the original software,
but cannot support the CCCAM service in the same IP address"

What does this mean ?

**Clark197** · 04-19-2013, 08:41 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by kalpikos

"support the original software,
but cannot support the CCCAM service in the same IP address"

What does this mean ?

that mean because all sim a8p have the same mac address(Post #12) you will
get trouble with CCCam if you use more than one Box with this sim a8p
on the same network.
=> don't try to buy and use CCCam on more than one box with sim a8p at home

.

Regard
Clark

**kalpikos** · 04-26-2013, 07:42 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Can someone confirm if a8p card works both with bcm and alps tuner?
I make this question because the online shops have the a8p card together only with bcm tuner.
I never found it with alps tuner.
Is there any problem for a8p card to works with one or the other tuner?

**Triad** · 05-14-2013, 12:54 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by Clark197

that mean because all sim a8p have the same mac address(Post #12) you will
get trouble with CCCam if you use more than one Box with this sim a8p
on the same network.
=> don't try to buy and use CCCam on more than one box with sim a8p at home

.
Regard
Clark

So it seems they finally found the way to slow down Cccam cs, at least in some degree!

@Kalpikos,
As far as I know from some retailers there is no difference between Alps and BCM, minding that the ALPS has the loop through F connector and BCM does not. So far it seems that the circuitry is the same but manufacture process of the same ones are not quite original!??

Originally posted by Clark197

that mean because all sim a8p have the same mac address(Post #12) you will get trouble with CCCam if you use more than one Box with this sim a8p
on the same network.
=> don't try to buy and use CCCam on more than one box with sim a8p at home .

Regard
Clark

If the same mac address is identified by server as unique by it's mac address connected to external IP, doesn't it means that anyone with the same external IP from the same network would have problems connecting, 'say to Satlover servers!??
Some wifi networks and some smaller ISP's have unique NAT defined network structure with same external IP.
It used to be a problem with Torrent trackers private of course, where one member of the same network, breaking policy rules, would exclude all the other users, not guilty at all !!!

cheers

**haris7878** · 06-24-2013, 08:54 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by kalpikos

Can someone confirm if a8p card works both with bcm and alps tuner?
I make this question because the online shops have the a8p card together only with bcm tuner.
I never found it with alps tuner.
Is there any problem for a8p card to works with one or the other tuner?

I can confirm,that. works great on my alps tuner

**aplok** · 06-25-2013, 07:00 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by kalpikos

Few days ago, I saw at the internet stores from China this new card a8p together with the dm800se.

sorry, what is these sim cards for ?
do i need it to run a recent dreambox ?
what are the additional functionalities ?

also i read this

Security SIM card for 800se
support the original software, but can not support the CCcam service in the same IP address

so, 800se + sim card + cccam = blue screen ?

thx

**nasir_acc80** · 06-25-2013, 11:31 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

no one suggest that which one is better...alps or bcm??????

**bakfitty** · 06-25-2013, 11:53 AM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by nasir_acc80

no one suggest that which one is better...alps or bcm??????

I vote for alps. A friend of mine uses that and he is really satisfied with it.

If my post was useful to you, please push 'thanks' button.

**Clark197** · 06-25-2013, 12:09 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by Triad

If the same mac address is identified by server as unique by it's mac address connected to external IP, doesn't it means that anyone with the same external IP from the same network would have problems connecting, 'say to Satlover servers!??

yes because the cccam service on each receiver won't run. mac-addresses are
supposed to be unique on a network(LAN).
It will be like ip conflict on the network. But this time it is a mac-address conflict.

Regards
Clark

**aplok** · 06-25-2013, 12:47 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by Clark197

that mean because all sim a8p have the same mac address(Post #12) you will get trouble with CCCam if you use more than one Box with this sim a8p on the same network.

correct,
we can get around with vlan, even on domestic modem-router like linksys !

=> don't try to buy and use CCCam on more than one box with sim a8p at home

.

then the home lan becomes home vlan !

**nasir_acc80** · 06-25-2013, 01:09 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Please anyone suggest me, which china clone is better? I searched to much and found many brands from china. Please tell me which is better by performance, no freezing and which is best to use cccam share.
I hope may expert to help me for choose a right device.
I bought open box s16 hd china model but it is worst decision by me. it is freeze every between 10 to 20 seconds. it giving me very hard time and also tuner is not able to scan many channels.
Please give me right advice and if possible post a website where I can buy the box.
Thanks in advance

**gianni253** · 06-25-2013, 01:15 PM

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Originally posted by aplok

we can get around with vlan, even on domestic modem-router like linksys !

Yes, vlan could be a good workaround, but I don't think it's so easy and common to find vlan feature in an ordinary home router

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