Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

[kalpikos]

I would like to ask your opinion about sim a8p compared to sim 2.10.
Few days ago, I saw at the internet stores from China this new card a8p together with the dm800se.

Do you think that is better than sim 2.10 and why ?
What about the support ?
Is there any team that supports this card ?
Would you prefer a dm800se with sim 2.10 or sim a8p and why?

[gianni253]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

No doubt a8p sim is better, because makes the clone a genuine DB.
It means no need for patched images.
You can install all original images, just like you would do on a genuine DB.
Of course a8p price is higher than sim 2.10

[rizwan]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Just a SIM different but box built with cheap components, don't compare with original. Its my opinion

[nush]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

sim a8p shouldn't need a sim support team as it allows users to install unpatched images, only time will tell if its better, i've already seen a number of threads on different forums with people using the update function and then box not working.
the original boxes cost 3 to 4 times as much as a clone so they will not be the same but if they do the same thing for a third of the price why pay more.

[kalpikos]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

so, we have a card that makes a dm800se like genuine at all?
I mean, can you only flash with original images or you can use also original drives, original plugins, interfaces, etc ?
As about the price, I think is not problem 20-25 euro more than sim2.10 if with that you can have a box similar to original. Moreover, I think that the price will be better in the future.

[rizwan]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

If many advantages other than image, then its a nice choice

[gianni253]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

so, we have a card that makes a dm800se like genuine at all?
I mean, can you only flash with original images or you can use also original drives, original plugins, interfaces, etc ?

Yes mate, forget you have a clone ...
Of course clone's hardware reliability is not good as genuine (though there are good clones too), but consider the big difference in price.
I think it is worth.

[kalpikos]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

@gianni253 , I absolutely agree with you

So, is my understanding correct that the A8P card works on both the original images as well as the modified image for sim2.1 ?
Can I use all dmm images and images off all other team without any driver patching?

[gianni253]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

@gianni253 , I absolutely agree with you

So, is my understanding correct that the A8P card works on both the original images as well as the modified image for sim2.1 ?
Can I use all dmm images and images off all other team without any driver patching?

I wouldn't use patched images with a8p because I am afraid you could face the infamous "caid error": patched second stage loader is not supposed to work with original sim.
But you can use unpatched images from dmm or all other teams.

[kalpikos]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Is it true that all a8p sims have the same Mac Address ?

...and Dmm plans to kill all these cards with a driver update or an update of ssl ?
or Dmm have bigger plans for all clones?

[e_hal9000]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

I wouldn't use patched images with a8p because I am afraid you could face the infamous "caid error": patched second stage loader is not supposed to work with original sim.
But you can use unpatched images from dmm or all other teams.

If I understand is possible to use all the images (unpached) but not the original from dream multimedia is correct?
Is a good news, I know exist the tux-sim to do it.
Anyway at the moment we have some new decoders like xtrend with low price original (no clone) with a good vision and stability, the clone is good but original is better, and with more support. That is only my opinion.

[Clark197]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Is it true that all a8p sims have the same Mac Address ?

i could be so, because this mac-address is not the Network MAC-Address. Many firms use the same internal mac-address.

regards
Clark

[kalpikos]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

If I understand is possible to use all the images (unpached) but not the original from dream multimedia is correct?

No mate
I understand something else...
That you can use all Dmm images (original) and all unpached images of the teams.

[kalpikos]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

Let's say that tomorrow I'm buying a dm800se with A8P sim,
and few months later DMM makes a driver update or makes an image with bomb,
as already did with dm500s, that makes my box stop working and damage my card.

My question is:

can I buy a new 2.10 sim to put it in the box ?
Does The only difference between two boxes is only the card ?
Are they have common hardware ?
or each box is builded for using only a dedicated card ?

[BM300]

Re: Dm800se sim 2.10 vs sim a8p

With the new A8P sim card, we can use the original software on the clone.
This is nice ... for now.
The only point to look out for is what counter measures would DMM will take in the new software.