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Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

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  • SatWaveDude
    Board Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 220

    Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

    Does Loadbalancing reduce ECM times when enabled?

    If I correctly understand a LB weight of 500 (highes posible) give a lower ECM time as the LB weight 10 (lowest posible).
    Value 100 is (default).

    Why would you use a lower value since it's negative for your ECM time.
    All we want is as LOW as posible ECM times

    Can someone explain this.
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  • purenirvana
    Board Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 234

    #2
    Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

    The actual ECM times that OSCam receives remains the same regardless of the loadbalancer weight. All the loadbalancer weight does is change the calculation OSCam uses to give each card an 'LB Value'. If you put a high weight, the LB value calculates as lower so OSCam is more likely to select this card if it can decrypt the channel requested.

    You basically use the loadbalancer to indicate to OSCam which cards you prefer to use according to their average ECM time, higher weight = higher preference. If you want to just average out the ECMs equally and let OSCam select the quickest card according to recent statistics, leave the loadbalancer weight as 100.
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    • SatWaveDude
      Board Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 220

      #3
      Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

      so if you dont have two identical cards then loadbalancing is not usefull and can be disabled?
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      • gianni253
        Experienced Board Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 903

        #4
        Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

        Originally posted by SatWaveDude
        so if you dont have two identical cards then loadbalancing is not usefull and can be disabled?
        Load balancing has no sense if you have only one card.

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        • purenirvana
          Board Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 234

          #5
          Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

          Originally posted by SatWaveDude
          so if you dont have two identical cards then loadbalancing is not usefull and can be disabled?
          Yes, if all of your proxies and local cards are different there is no point at all in 'loadbalancing'.
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          • cisko
            Banned
            • Sep 2012
            • 237

            #6
            Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

            you can also use with remote.
            It's useful if you have preference with some remote and you would reduce generated traffic. In this case Oscam will ask for card or remote with higher weight.

            Alternatively, you can set-up Oscam to try at the same time with all correct remote and local. This option might generate a lot of traffic but you will ask codes to all. It's useful with unstable remote.

            The third way is the real way to reduce response time, I think. So, set-up Oscam to ask code to card or remote that has quicker response time and after to other. List is generated and updated automatically by the software itself.

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            • championc
              Junior Member
              • May 2013
              • 14

              #7
              Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

              Hi all,

              Does OSCam Loadbalancing look at Readers or the actual cards supplied by those readers ?

              The scenario I have is that I'm connected to 3 peers. If all the cards were hop 2, then you could have 2 channels from one broadcaster, coming from 2 different peers and maybe nothing from the third peer. When I turn on LB, my Dad, who is a hop down from me (obviously) gets breakups.

              Is there a posting anywhere which will indicate "suggested" values or a bit more of what parameter affects what. The wiki drives me crazy. Take lb_auto_timeout. All it says is that the value can be 1 or 0. Great help that !!

              Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.

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              • gianni253
                Experienced Board Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 903

                #8
                Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

                Originally posted by championc
                Hi all,

                Does OSCam Loadbalancing look at Readers or the actual cards supplied by those readers ?

                The scenario I have is that I'm connected to 3 peers. If all the cards were hop 2, then you could have 2 channels from one broadcaster, coming from 2 different peers and maybe nothing from the third peer. When I turn on LB, my Dad, who is a hop down from me (obviously) gets breakups.

                Is there a posting anywhere which will indicate "suggested" values or a bit more of what parameter affects what. The wiki drives me crazy. Take lb_auto_timeout. All it says is that the value can be 1 or 0. Great help that !!

                Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
                Loadbalancing applies only to a server scenario.
                If you are a client (as I suppose you are), forget about LB.

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                • championc
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

                  I'm a server. My Dad and a few other mates from work are clients off me and also my peers are clients too

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                  • gianni253
                    Experienced Board Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 903

                    #10
                    Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

                    Originally posted by championc
                    I'm a server.
                    Real server (with real cards) or resharing server ?

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                    • championc
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Re: Can Loadbalancing lower ECM time?

                      Resharing

                      However, I believe I found the problem. Obviously, LB collects stats from Peers based on requests to these peers. I was watching the Clients section of the Status page in the OSCam Web Gui and kept re-freshing over and over and switching between Proxies. I then turned on LB and saw (strangely) a different Proxy being used for a request and this request Timing Out. I can only therefore assume the Proxy had fake cards or something similar. It had obviously somehow informed the LB that it had cards and with a Low ECM which was very clearly not the case.

                      So with a click of the mouse button on the pause button of the Proxy followed by the delete button, and all my problems were solved

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