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Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

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  • SatWaveDude
    Board Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 220

    Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

    Hello,

    What is the difference between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

    What are the pros and cons of these versions?

    I hear that people believe the 64-bit is faster but there is no proof only believe

    So the reason I ask is because i'm gonna use an Intel Atom board to run oscam on and it supports the 64-bit and if the 64-bit is better I install that version instead.

    Any useful information is welcome
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  • ZoxPa
    Experienced Board Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 528

    #2
    Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

    Config files are same for 32-bit and 64-bit versions. So it's very easy to change oscam binary file from 32-bit to 64-bit oscam or vice versa. You can test both versions. I belive 64-bit version can better use PC with 64-bit architecture. So, difference between 32-bit and 64-bit version should be similar to difference between 32-bit and 64-bit PC.
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    • gianni253
      Experienced Board Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 903

      #3
      Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

      I agree with ZoxPa that differences are only related to hardware architecture where oscam has to run.
      Of course 64 bit architecture is faster by definition, but real effect on ecm time is minimal because the most of the ecm time is taken by the card itself and processing time taken by oscam is near to zero.

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      • SatWaveDude
        Board Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 220

        #4
        Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

        How I have understand it is that a 64-bit version would be react faster than the 32-bit version.

        But would it realy be worth it?

        I now that it's best to test both versions but how do you determine the differences if they are minimal noticeable results, and the config files are indeed the same for both so thats convenient when testing.

        I think system load has nothing to do with it only response time would be interesting to now.
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        • gianni253
          Experienced Board Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 903

          #5
          Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

          Mate, you would have same response time, at least regarding ecm time.
          Maybe you could get an improvement in webif but ... is it worth ?
          I don't think so.

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          • SatWaveDude
            Board Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 220

            #6
            Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

            Yeah you are probably right.
            I also like to use an auto installer script and there wil also be difference for 32 or 64 bit installations.

            btw, can you trust an auto installer script since you do not exacly now whats beeing installed on your computer!?
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            • gianni253
              Experienced Board Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 903

              #7
              Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

              Originally posted by SatWaveDude
              btw, can you trust an auto installer script since you do not exacly now whats beeing installed on your computer!?
              No, I usually don't trust ... and whatever it is, if I can install manually .. I do it manually.

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              • ZoxPa
                Experienced Board Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 528

                #8
                Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

                Another difference could be number of clients. 64-bit version should be more powerful for large number of clients if is in question server with oscam running on it.
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                • SatWaveDude
                  Board Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 220

                  #9
                  Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

                  So in other words it's not worth to install the 64-bit version above the 32-bit one.

                  Does anybody els have an opinion about 32-bit vs 64-bit I'm glad to hear!
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                  • Clark197
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 151

                    #10
                    Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

                    Originally posted by ZoxPa
                    Another difference could be number of clients. 64-bit version should be more powerful for large number of clients if is in question server with oscam running on it.
                    not very true

                    Only if the application supports multiple cores, a 64 bit version can be faster than the 32 bit version.
                    Because the OS can use the first 32 bits for a client and the last 32 bits for a different client
                    (example for 2 cores: implementation decision).

                    The speed is determined by the RAM because CPU are faster. A 64 Bits OS can handle with more RAM
                    and therefore also faster.

                    Regards
                    Clark

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                    • gianni253
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 903

                      #11
                      Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

                      I agree mate, with a huge number of clients, even if cs server has caching feature, bottleneck is in the card or in bandwidth, not in hw architecture ...

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                      • SatWaveDude
                        Board Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 220

                        #12
                        Re: Pro and Cons between Oscam 32-bit vs 64-bit?

                        to says things in short: one does not have much advantage to use the 64-bit version!

                        mabe future versions of the 64-bit that wil be multicore support wil react faster but there is no need for it since the cards can deliver as in proportion we would like to
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