Moving to full OSCAM ?

[erno]

As you know OSCAM can connect with all key sharing protocols, I am therefore wondering if one of you has done the "big step" by moving to full oscam ?

This possible in therory to get rid of CCCam, gbox ..., but has anyone done it yet ?

Please share on this because I am really fed up with non opensource solutions.
Clearly oscam has integrated the ECM change of length of canalsat, the others no .....

[bigfoot]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

I used to run OScam on my IPBOX9000, it was very good, in fact I still do the binary files and post them here.
There are a lot of parameters to set-up, so can be a little daunting at the beginning, but using a simple basic config file will get you running.
There is one problem, some CCCam servers know you are running OSscam and will disconnect you very quickly, I sometimes have this problem with the Satlovers server, so at the moment use CCCam on my DM800HD SE. (will open a thread on this later).

[HelgeSchneider]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

so i am running oscam on my coolstream Neo and i could not get it working good with the CS for the Satlover Servers.

Using it also inhouse CS and working perfect but also a Oscam as server on a freetz-router

Sometimes after turning the STB off and o ni have to restart oscam but then its working good

the problem of changing full to oscam could be that you cant use any more softcam keyfiles in oscam
then you will have to start a server for the softcam keys

[killercurly]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

I've been running only OSCAM on my DM7025 for months now.
Inhouse cs and as cs client.
The latest builds are really good.
Highly recommended.

[uttnls]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

I've been running only OSCAM on my DM7025 for months now.
Inhouse cs and as cs client.
The latest builds are really good.
Highly recommended.

Hmm is an ECM eater but it handles well cards that cccam currently does not, as a client cccam is still the simplest and the best choise

[mirny]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

There is one problem, some CCCam servers know you are running OSscam and will disconnect you very quickly, I sometimes have this problem with the Satlovers server, so at the moment use CCCam on my DM800HD SE. (will open a thread on this later).

Don't you know why is it like that?
Why satlover servers don't like oscam?

[erno]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

Back after a few months on this thread I am still wondering if it is worse to move full oscam or not.
From what I have seen here the choice is not so obvious, so I will wait a little more for more feedbacks.

BR/
Erno

[morpheus81]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

Don't you know why is it like that?
Why satlover servers don't like oscam?

I run oscam 1.20 build #5983 only, and i don't have problems with the satlover servers, everything runs nice.

[Triad]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

Hmm is an ECM eater but it handles well cards that cccam currently does not, as a client cccam is still the simplest and the best choise

If it handles better cards that cccam doesn't than it's obvious that Oscam is the better solution, not cccam!?

[edision500]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

I am new here can anyone tell me how to use oscam with the satlover servers?

Thank you all

[Triad]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

edision,
I'm not an expert in Oscam and can help you only in finding good infos on Oscam configs that would work better than Cccam in client mode.
Found this info in question of myself up there and it revealed me different conception of Caids handling by Oscam then Cccam.
OScam is intelligent and does not need card-lists.
And there are no "hops" also! CCcam thinks that a card on a near hop is good. But that's not always true.
OScam uses the card which is answering the fastest. Even when it's far away.
It could even happen that a far-away card answers faster than your local one. (if your local one is used a lot).
This doesn't matter. All YOU want is a fast card-answer, without caring about "distances".
So, after these infos, I'm reconsidering myself to enable Oscam emu as a client. But problem stays in handling of Satlover Caids which are adjusted in their Cccam and Newcs settings to decline when Oscam client connects!
There is always some kind "but" in problems solution!

[runmo]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

What's the procedure of c-line input in oscam for clients and where for enigma 2 (in dcc)? Maybe there's also difference between different oscams releases?
Also I saw some combinations oscam/cccam with input procedure cccam.cfg but I suppose it isn't the same like 100% stand alone oscam.
If oscam is indeed better or will be compared to cccam it would be nice for members to know how. Maybe our cam expert Triad can help once he tried it out
best regards
runmo

[Triad]

Re: Moving to full OSCAM ?

Bro, thankz for the qualification, but I'm far from an expert M8!
Oscam needs to be read only and it's achievable with Oscam.conf settings as well as Cccam.cfg N line. There are two ways to connect, with N line and L line.
Another method of connecting oscam to CCcam is the camd3 protocol ( L line ).

With this method you get faster ecm as there are no deskeys as in the N line .

It's easy procedure:
download and install oscam/cccam as one package (Oscam/Cccam 2.1.4)
put the config files in var/tuxbox/config
put the N-line in cccam cfg (if wou want deskey negotiation)
restart oscam via the blue button
and it should do enough.

There are problems with Oscam lately as it's capable of stealing other users Cccam clines and converting them to N lines in Cccam.cfg and sharing them as yours (trick with "256" at the end of the deskey line!
This is a fact and usually creates much traffic and sometimes can wreak havoc on Cccam servers that are sharing real cards, since they get faulty clients. It seems that Satlover Vip server refuses all connections where Oscam is a client, because or these reasons!!!
I have friend that is reporting Oscam making much mistakes, because of oscam peers that are to lazy or maybe to dumb, to configure their oscam reader. Their oscam floods ecm requests to cccam sharing.

For this function of Oscam to use Cccam as a client, one must to connect oscam with CCcam. Since it's some kind of procedure, infos are I think available here in Oscam section and if not, I can upload them!

CCcam will eventually get a new sharing-protocol very soon, that could kick out all bumping cccam readers, 'cause payservers do not want them in their share.

There's flips and flops in coins of the every story so this one is not any different!
On the other hand, we should be happy there is oscam as it is the only card software capable of reading the NDS Italy cards.
Some benefits besides are:
- Oscam is sharing better sky uk and sky italy cards as Cccam fails to open some channels on their cards..
- Oscam is also used in conjunction with cccam in this situation to share the card...
- Oscam is used to read and update the card...
So for the moment, servers do have some benefits, I'll have to check if there are possibilities to have it as a client on Satlover, and hope that Satlover will not take me as a stealer. maybe should notify him on test purposes.

btw, if it's refusing connection, then wth, it's not even worth a try, but then again, learning is the case in these forum friendships not just sat viewing @Runmo, isn't it !!!
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We better do our part of the effort to that cause, right...
Ohh fingers are tingling of this much txt...
cheers m8