No*a Greece - EMM problems & Solution

[VasilisE]

It seems that for the last days there has been a problem with the mentioned card. Most of the channels seem to be being blocked and will not work until i put the card in an Irdeto cam .

It looks like its got to do with the frequency of the ECM going to the card.
If there is just one user accessing the card then all channels are ok and nothing blocks. If more users log in then card after a while blocks most of the channels and leaves just a really few open.

Probably a new feature that was activated on the latest irdeto cards and they found a way to override emm mechanism in CCcam ?

Does anyone know anything about it?


Bad times coming to cs, unfortunately...

[tonybod]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

What softcam are you running?

I know of a problem where certain cards running in cccam will not get any updates messages unless a mgdcam is connected to it (if that makes sense).

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

It is a new problem and it started 5 days ago . As it seems Cccam/Mgcam/newcs/scam emu have the same problem .

CCcam starts EMM updates:
12:44:22.072 CCcam: EMM: start filter on irdeto emmpid: 0x500 caid: 0x604 id: 0x0

And a few seconds later it fails:
12:44:22.189 CCcam: EMM: demux device failure, stop filter on irdeto caid: 0x604 id: 0x0

From what i read ( the problem is generic and not only in my box ) this counter measure against cs is pretty awesome and i hope other providers dont follow this

I don't see the way how to make one card to work as before, because limitations is done inside the card and we can't do nothing about that process.....

For now 1 no*va card = 4 channels . 5 will make CCcam to need restart to work . The only solution ( not valid for me ) is to use a script to restart CCcam every 3'

[bliner]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

yes vasili,this is a new methot ANTI CARDSHARING by avon and now (this moment) do you can't fix it

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

Thanks . Hope CCcam team will release a fix for this in CCcam 2.1.5 .

[Jerry2020]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

Stopped on cccam for me too

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

The problems is that as soon as you have people watching more than 4 channels at a time , the card blocks and CCcam needs to be restarted for the card to work again.
If you leave just 4 channel sids available then it works even if you have 20 users watching. So if lets say you have 10 cards with 4 Sids availiable for each one of them then you are ok .

Maybe Satlover server should do that ... Must inform the server admin !

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

Found this in another forum :

Each card can service 4 channels simultaneously. After that channels starting not to clear(NET, SKY, Alter and so on).

The big payservers are using card server proxy and 8 cards and they divide the channels, 4 channels to each card. With this their clients watch the 4 same channels on their card and with that the card never blocks.

No*a has managed for the small payservers to loose their clients and to go to the big payserver which they have the money to have 8 cards minimum.

Also, the no*a cards which will be available for cardsharing with no freeze will be from big payservers.

No*a has managed for the small payservers to loose their clients and to go to the big payserver which they have the money to have 8 cards minimum.

No*a didnt manage to close small or big servers
actually they decrease the cw so the emms comes more slowly
so on one nova card that let says are watching 4 ppl 4 differt channels when the 5th users ask for another channel that is not same with the 4 the card stucks and freezing

so the truth is that csp is the solution but csp is not for everyone and not easy setup
and csp is not a softcam
so for the moment only a new softcam can fix the current problem and not easy cause of the cw decrease and the way of kappa card can handle the emms for 10 to 2 secs lets say
its the same tactic that pehla package used from august 2009

[skytec]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

This is bad news, can only wait and hope. I think it can not be bypassed ...

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

For now there is no solution other than having 8 cards each sharing 4 channels. Don't believe anything else you hear about other solutions .....

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problem????

CCcam.cfg example for allowing only 4 SID per user :

F: user1 passw@rd 2 0 0 { 0:0:3 } { 0604:000000:017A, 0604:000000:016B ,0604:000000:0179, 0604:000000:0178}

SID list for N*va:

SA: { 017A } #ET1
SA: { 016B } #ET3
SA: { 0140 } #ANT1
SA: { 0179 } #MAD
SA: { 0178 } #NET
SA: { 013F } #MEGA
SA: { 0141 } #STAR
SA: { 0142 } #ALTER
SA: { 013D } #CINEMA1
SA: { 1D53 } #CINEMA2
SA: { 1BC2 } #CINEMA3
SA: { 3C90 } #SUMMER
SA: { 1D51 } #MGM
SA: { 0162 } #TCM
SA: { 1BC4 } #SPORTHIOGHLITS
SA: { 013E} #SPORT1
SA: { 0161 } #SPORT2
SA: { 1D4D } #SPORT3
SA: { 1BC3 } #SP4
SA: { 1BC4 } #ET5
SA: { 1BC5 } #SP6
SA: { 0170 } #SP7
SA: { 1BBE } #ENTERTAIMENT
SA: { 3C8E } #FOXLIFE
SA: { 1D4F } #MTV
SA: { 1D4E } #VH1
SA: { 0145 } #ALPHATV
SA: { 016A } #ALPHATV
SA: { 1D99 } #MADGREEK
SA: { 1D97 } #TRAVEL
SA: { 1D54 } #NATGEOGRAFIC
SA: { 015F } #DISCOVERY
SA: { 1D52 } #ANIMALPLANET
SA: { 1BBF } #HISTORY
SA: { 1BD2 } #BOOMERANG
SA: { 0168 } #CARTOON
SA: { 3C8D } #DISNEY
SA: { 013C } #DISNEYXD
SA: { 0169 } #MACEDONIATV

So to have the full package you need this X8 ( meaning you need 8 cards !! )

[faccione]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problems & Solution

If you don't mind, VasilisE, I changed the title to the thread and stuck it on the forum

[VasilisE]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problems & Solution

If you don't mind, VasilisE, I changed the title to the thread and stuck it on the forum

Thanks my friend .

Who must we contact to make the SID solution work on the free satlover server because although the cards are there they don't work due to the EMM problem ?

[bliner]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problems & Solution

This time I write this, the channels of provider work with ..cccam sh@r!ng... for obvious reasons I can not upload a photo and say the name of the server but the server is best for me ....revoltas

[papofuzz]

Re: No*a Greece - EMM problems & Solution

any solution for nova?