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  • shinoxl
    Banned
    • Aug 2012
    • 17

    cccam and newcamd

    hi

    just wondering what the difference was, ive got 2 test lines at the moment, both seem to be working smoothly, but im wondering what the difference is between the 2 lines? what is cccam and newcamd???
  • toby69
    Experienced Board Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 4198

    #2
    Re: cccam and newcamd

    they are both a ( sharing protocal software )
    but someboxes perform better with nlines, or visa versa, i have both in my box.
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    • shinoxl
      Banned
      • Aug 2012
      • 17

      #3
      Re: cccam and newcamd

      i couldn't tell the difference in terms of quality both my test lines were running just as good as the other.

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      • digicon
        Experienced Board Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 971

        #4
        Re: cccam and newcamd

        MGcamd running with an Nline gives the server better ECM times and more peers so to speak where as CCcam does not, It all depends what protocol is being used for the card reader in the first place

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        • bokkie
          Experienced Board Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 1561

          #5
          Re: cccam and newcamd

          Originally posted by shinoxl
          i couldn't tell the difference in terms of quality both my test lines were running just as good as the other.
          Have a look at this thread.

          h**p://www.satlover.eu/forum/satellite-discussion-english/43186-can-i-use-newcamd-and-cccam-line-with-the-same-box.html

          I run 2 clines and 1 nline together in cccam with no problems at all.
          I have my sly uk nline, my multisat cline and my satlover server 2 cline all running together.
          I just configured it so my 2 clines ignore sly uk and it all works perfectly.

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          • bonilla
            Board Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 251

            #6
            Re: cccam and newcamd

            Be sure to have on your cfg file :

            # should CCcam try to read and parse newcamd.conf for server connections
            # default is no (turned off)
            #
            #NEWCAMD CONF : yes


            # global setting for stealthy login to newcamd/newcs server, N line can overrule
            # stealth modes: 0 = disabled, 1 = mgcamd new, 2 = mgcamd old, 3 = evocamd, 4 = generic
            # default: 0
            #
            #NEWCAMD STEALTH : 0
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            • gauloises1
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 148

              #7
              Re: cccam and newcamd

              N line: you get only 1 card directly from your partner's receiver(very fast line),not everyone is sharing n line
              C line: you get more than 1 card (betwen 2 and .....)

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              • digicon
                Experienced Board Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 971

                #8
                Re: cccam and newcamd

                Originally posted by gauloises1
                N line: you get only 1 card directly from your partner's receiver(very fast line),not everyone is sharing n line
                C line: you get more than 1 card (betwen 2 and .....)

                Thats not quite correct N: lines can share more than one card at a time the only problem is its a lot slower at opening multi packages.

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                • gauloises1
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 148

                  #9
                  Re: cccam and newcamd

                  i am not a expert,but as far as i know you can share from n line just the cards that you have(1,2 or with smargo)without 256 trick

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                  • bonilla
                    Board Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 251

                    #10
                    Re: cccam and newcamd

                    The actual correct setting for N lines is :

                    # syntax for to add newcamd server connection
                    #
                    #N: <ip> <port> <username> <pass> <des(14byte)> <nr_of_hops_away (default: 1)> <stealth mode (default: 0)>
                    #
                    # example:
                    #
                    # N: 127.0.0.1 10000 dummy dummy 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
                    #
                    # add a newcamd card, give it an offset of 2 hops, in the share list
                    #
                    # N: 127.0.0.1 10000 dummy dummy 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 2
                    #
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                    • herrr
                      Experienced Board Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1081

                      #11
                      Re: cccam and newcamd

                      Originally posted by bonilla
                      # N: 127.0.0.1 10000 dummy dummy 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 2
                      #
                      I didn't know newcamd very well (actually I used once this protocol but on Windows with Winsc) and I didn't know this syntax: so it's enough to put 1 or 2 at the end of des key?

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                      • besit
                        Board Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 343

                        #12
                        Re: cccam and newcamd

                        There are some differences between Newcamd and CCCam.
                        Newcamd protocol is often used by Russian CS payservers.
                        They often open just one package on one port with a single N-line.
                        CCCam servers often offer all packages on same port.
                        Newcamd traffic is ciphering but it doesn't matter for they almost always use the same Deskey - 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
                        These are two very good card sharing protocols and it's little incorrect to compare them. Stable work of the box depends on CS server admin's and user's hand-straightness, not a protocol used.

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                        • mirny
                          Experienced Board Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 707

                          #13
                          Re: cccam and newcamd

                          Originally posted by shinoxl
                          hi

                          just wondering what the difference was, ive got 2 test lines at the moment, both seem to be working smoothly, but im wondering what the difference is between the 2 lines? what is cccam and newcamd???
                          newcamd is more stable and it's safer protocol than cccam.
                          camd3 is also a good one.
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                          • herrr
                            Experienced Board Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1081

                            #14
                            Re: cccam and newcamd

                            Originally posted by mirny
                            newcamd is more stable and it's safer protocol than cccam.
                            camd3 is also a good one.
                            I think that idea comes from your experience of good and bad providers, but it's not universal...
                            About "safer": since they all use same Deskey - 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14, security is not really better, if you mean this thing.

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                            • bonilla
                              Board Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 251

                              #15
                              Re: cccam and newcamd

                              About security ,you have to be sure to know what do you put on your config file,no matter the cam you use.
                              About liability ,the servers will be the reason of your the quality of your image (smooth or freeze)
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