The nova-problem

[Satphoenix]

A short explaination - found on another source:

"NOVA has paired/married card and cam in the receiver.
A possible solution (against) may be the sniffing of the communication between card and cam to find a way to hide where the ecm-request comes from.
The problem is that the card only gives reaction, if the paired cam gives an ecm-request. All other requests (e. g. from an unknown receiver via cs) won't be answered."

Perhaps it is possible soon to use a NOVA-receiver as cw-server for one program as a cw-server?

[Satphoenix]

Re: The nova-problem

In addition:

NOVA uses a broadcom chip to encrypt the communication between the new card and the internal cam. So NOVA will stay dark for a longer time.

That's the sad truth at the moment.

[pan1300]

Re: The nova-problem

hi guys

posted somewhere before, but is this the same 'method' s*y uk and it are using right now (pairing card with device)? If so, we all will have a problem in xx months or even weeks? Hope not - and if not: someone knows the difference between the 2 measurements/methods? Very curiuous about this ...

[kostis]

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If n0va win this game then the cs is over

[Satphoenix]

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For that you need new hardware for all users/subscribers.
This would be too expensive only to stop a bit cardsharing for the bigger providers.
When I understood the news correct, nova has changed the complete hardware, but for other providers it's nearly impossible.

[kostis]

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well the ''bit cardsharing'' is much more than you think. just look at all those members here and add anther 10 similar forums.

[gianni253]

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... but is this the same 'method' s*y uk and it are using right now (pairing card with device)?

Sly it has not paired cards yet (don't know about sly uk for sure), but algo is completely different and is based on nd*s protocol.
Again, pairing hacks can be developed only through reverse engineering of cam firmware.

[BlueIsMyColor]

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Z*n TV C*bo (30ºW) have the card paired with the receiver and cs is working. Is necessary to get the data from the card and the receiver to put the cards reading on other receivers. I think it's a question of time.

regards

[Satphoenix]

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well the ''bit cardsharing'' is much more than you think. just look at all those members here and add anther 10 similar forums.

Only for calculation:

How many greek speaking members here have used the servers instead of regular subscribtion? 10? 20? More (?) - I don't believe.
All others (including myself) perhaps look a few seconds or minutes into programs they don't really understand only to convince and enjoy that they are working.
On the other boards the same - so how many real cs-users for nova? A few hundreds via international boards - perhaps, but that's all.
Than a few more via private cs - ok.
But when you compare this with the number of normal subscribers not really the big problem - in my opinion.
Perhaps I'm wrong because I don't know the exact numbers.

[bokkie]

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Sly uk have been experimenting for a while now, and rumor is that they are testing a pairing algo. They are also sending out letters to subscribers with older stb that they have to be replaced, possibly in preparation for pairing card and stb.

[herrr]

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Only for calculation:

How many greek speaking members here have used the servers instead of regular subscribtion? 10? 20? More (?) - I don't believe.
All others (including myself) perhaps look a few seconds or minutes into programs they don't really understand only to convince and enjoy that they are working.
On the other boards the same - so how many real cs-users for nova? A few hundreds via international boards - perhaps, but that's all.
Than a few more via private cs - ok.
But when you compare this with the number of normal subscribers not really the big problem - in my opinion.
Perhaps I'm wrong because I don't know the exact numbers.

If the situation is similar to that one of some italian or spanish cities (like Naples, to tell one) you can not speak about numbers...there is a lot of people using cs without undestanding about it: they buy decoder and "subscrition" in ordinary shops...
Surely they don't appear on any forum...

[Satphoenix]

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...a lot of people using cs without undestanding about it: they buy decoder and "subscrition" in ordinary shops...
Surely they don't appear on any forum...

I don't want to contradict but are this really so many users - and risking to loose their money if the paid-server goes down?
One official card can feed perhaps 6 independent users of a package untill the glitches/freezes begin.
I don't know or have ever heard about those shops in germany - perhaps there are a few of them but it's really nothing compared with the hacked old systems via emu.
OK, the providers don't like cs but so much expenditure for this (at the moment) very comprehensible amount of cs?

[herrr]

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I don't want to contradict but are this really so many users - and risking to loose their money if the paid-server goes down?
One official card can feed perhaps 6 independent users of a package untill the glitches/freezes begin.
I don't know or have ever heard about those shops in germany - perhaps there are a few of them but it's really nothing compared with the hacked old systems via emu.
OK, the providers don't like cs but so much expenditure for this (at the moment) very comprehensible amount of cs?

If you can understand some italian, try to ****** scoperto decoder sky pirata.
This one:
_http://gallipoli.lecceprima.it/sky-pirateria-informatica-gallipoli.html
tells about a pirate wireless network of cs: 300 users in a little town...

[runmo]

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keep it to the topic of nova in this thread, this isn't about sky italy or sky uk, feel free to discuss this further in new thread, thank you

[kostis]

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I don't want to contradict but are this really so many users - and risking to loose their money if the paid-server goes down?
One official card can feed perhaps 6 independent users of a package untill the glitches/freezes begin.
I don't know or have ever heard about those shops in germany - perhaps there are a few of them but it's really nothing compared with the hacked old systems via emu.
OK, the providers don't like cs but so much expenditure for this (at the moment) very comprehensible amount of cs?

n0va gr had less subscribers than those who use cs, and 95% of them cannot even add a plugging to the receiver they just pay for the hole year the server. i was in the same position for 10 years until i enter Satlover last year.