Difference between local and non-local?

[Satphoenix]

A simple question:

What is the difference between local and non-local cards?
Does non-local mean hop2 or hop3 via internet?

[luk4asz]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

Yes, local - you are owner card eg. in your tuner
non-local - hop2, hop3 .... via internet <- true

[gianni253]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

non-local - hop2, hop3 .... via internet <- true

... or via lan, if you make cs at home.

[kalpikos]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

An advice only ...

Don't always trust someone who says that have a local card.
There are many tricks for converting a non-local card to local.
In this way, I take come cards in hop 2, 3, 4 and make them as local...

[herrr]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

Exactly: long delays in response unveil the truth...

[luk4asz]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

Exactly 2: This is especially simple to do using oscam

[Satphoenix]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

I've asked this because I received a cline from a server with nearly 100 cards all on hop1, but very slowly, many freezes and glitches and often disconnects.
I can't believe what is written in the cccam-webinterface.
satlover server4 is much better than this "nearly premium" server.
Is there a way to test if there are cheated hop1s?

[gianni253]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

Is there a way to test if there are cheated hop1s?

No, no way, because hops numbers are reset by the cardserver/emu itself.
But you can tell by ecm times ...
Nobody can tell you stories about hops if you have unacceptable ecm times !
Bye

[herrr]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

I'd make it in a very simple way, but related to things that I can use...don't know if it can be useful...
I'd configure on pc the flycccam (still the original one, that I paid) with the server and I'd monitor the times of response for CW, that you can read directly on screen.
Then I'd try to ping server and if data are not similar, there must be something fake...

[Satphoenix]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

OK, sounds as if the indirect way is the only solution.
I wonder how many fakes are "on the run" all over the net.
But I believe that the satlover lines are correct!

[gianni253]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

But I believe that the satlover lines are correct!

Yes, they are indeed !
With satlover you'll find cards with hops 3 but still acceptable ecm times.

[mirny]

Re: Difference between local and non-local?

Exactly 2: This is especially simple to do using oscam

you can do this with cccam 2.0.11-2.1.3 too, its called 256 trick
so better don't share your N-lines!