About encryption systems

[vanbasten]

I have a quick question regarding this encryption systems. As far as I know, the caid numbers are for the encryption packages, correct?say 0604 is for conax.

Whenever the channel freezes I go to the server screen on my yumatu receiver and restart the server. then i see bunch of codes and writings and also caid numbers.

So here is my question.

If i can watch a channel with satlover that I know is using a certaain decryption package like conax, is it guaranteed that when I try to watch another channel from another package i will eventually be able to watch the show even if i have to wait for 4-5 minutes?

and some channels have more than one encryption packages like conax nagravision.....

Does this mean that i have to use a server that decrypts all of those at once or a server that decrypts at least one of those caid encryptions.

[pan1300]

Re: About encryption systems

and some channels have more than one encryption packages like conax nagravision.....

Does this mean that i have to use a server that decrypts all of those at once or a server that decrypts at least one of those caid encryptions.

hi

Depends on the cards and the encryption of it in the server ; if a certain channel/package is open with encryption x, all is 'ok' - problem is that (I refer to belgium, netherlands and france - think more will follow) there are more and more 'antisharing-measures' such as max. 4 channels/card open at the same time, which makes it more and more difficult ; in some cases only 1 of the encryptions is 'ok'.
I hope my explanation is clear, and that's what you meant.

[vanbasten]

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thanks for the reply
so if i can watch a channel, lets say bbc knowledge, and it requires to have a,b,c encryption packages does this mean that the cccam i am using has a card that solves a,b,c altogether or if it just solves only one of those lets say b then i can still watch bbc knowledge?

[toby69]

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i think your problem is you not on any good server, your post count is 71=server3, if you using them here?
free servers are very unlikely to be trouble free and i myself would not have the patience to wait 4/5 minutes, do some more posting, (useful) and apply for server2, you wont be dissapointed.

[vanbasten]

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yes I am using server 3 and 4 together,and bbc knowledge is working much better but during evening hours there is a lot of freezing. But what I am wondering is this. bbc knowledge on hotbird requires

Conax
Viaccess 3.0

So if I am able to watch the channel, even though it is freezing, does this mean that satlover solves both of the above ecryption systems or just one of them ? in other words do the channel providers require both encryption systems or only one is enough?

[microchick]

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My understanding is that if it uses 2 kind of encryptions at the same time then any of them 2 would be enough to open the channel. Its like giving more facility to people that they can open the channel on any of the above systems, e.g. Conax or Viaaccess 3.0

[pan1300]

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Correct: one encryption is enough to open it (some even have up to 7 encryptions - eg some MTV's)

Further @vanbasten: you say that you use servers 3 and 4 together ; I have the impression it's best to use only 1 (start with 4 as this theoretically must be more stable).

[vanbasten]

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so this means that any other channel that is using. lets say conax, should be solved with satlover since i can watch bbc satellitebg channels which have only conax as their encryption package. but here is my question, which may sound silly

why are there more freezings on hotbird channels than on satellite bg channels. i know there demand for hotbird is higher but after all those people are also trying to watch channels which require similar encryption packages with the channels on satellitebg. If every user goes to the same server then why do hotbird channels freeze and satellitebg ones do not?

[pan1300]

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hi

Think it really has to do with an overloaded server (to much demand), surely on HB and at peak times.
If there are more reasons: please someone correct me and/or give additional info - thanks.

[vanbasten]

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yes that is what i thought at first pan, about having too much demand but when i thought more carefully the servers are same for different satellites. there is a satellitebg and hotbird server right? and most of the channels use similar packages, ie conax for satellitebg and bbc knowledge. so when me who is watching nat geo on satellitebg is trying to log into satlover server it is faster than someone trying to watch bbc knowledge on hotbird?

[toby69]

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reason, is all down to local cards and hops/reshares.
i see vanbasten you only on servers that lines get plastered all over the web, so you will always get interuptions, until you get your own personal line that no one can interupt your viewing.

[microchick]

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I know where you coming from. When you buy a card, you buy it for the whole network with different allowance. Servers always offer a network instead of channels. Now the channels For exapmple (NG Wild), will be a part of cyfra (Conax)) on HB . Same channel will be connected to a different network on satellite BG (Same encryption). If one channel is busy then the whole network is busy. Therefore the whole cyfra will be busy with more users but satellite BG wont be, with less users.

PS all the channels, network and encryption names are imaginary and not accurate.

[pan1300]

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hi

I presume you're right.
As far as I know it's more about the cards (and their encryptions) than really the servers. But farely must say I'm no expert on this - as said previously: more tips and info welcome on this!

[vanbasten]

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I know where you coming from. When you buy a card, you buy it for the whole network with different allowance. Servers always offer a network instead of channels. Now the channels For exapmple (NG Wild), will be a part of cyfra (Conax)) on HB . Same channel will be connected to a different network on satellite BG (Same encryption). If one channel is busy then the whole network is busy. Therefore the whole cyfra will be busy with more users but satellite BG wont be, with less users.

PS all the channels, network and encryption names are imaginary and not accurate.

so what i understand from what you said, is this, each card on a cccam server (satlover 3-4 has 3 cards) is good for a package ie cyfra,satellitebg, polsat.... not each card for an encryption system.

Since there is more demand for cyfra channels on hotbird, the card on satlover that solves them gets overloaded and we have freezes.

but there are so many packages on different satellites and from what I have read on this forum, the satlover servers are good for many channels on different satellites. so if my understanding is correct then you must have many more cards, surely much more than 3.

again any corrections would be appreciated, thanks

[pan1300]

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hi

you're right about the cards and encryptions, but not about the quantity of cards ; when you check your connection, you can see somewhere the number of cards (not sure and can't check from here, but last time I looked was about something like: server 3 with about 400 cards or more and server 4 with about 250 cards) -> so much more than 3!!