Industry’s first IP-LNB

[skytec]

The IP-LNB is a prototype device that will deliver eight concurrent channels from any of the transponders of a satellite orbital position. These channels may be forwarded via IP unicast or multicast to fixed and portable devices. Satellite signals will be distributed via Ethernet, power-line communications (PLC) or a Wi-Fi local area network (LAN). The technology can be used for free-to-air or pay-TV applications.

The LNB is a crucial element of a satellite system, receiving signals collected by the satellite dish, amplifying and converting them to intermediate frequencies to be carried to the set-top box (STB).

By locating the satellite reception and the IP bridging functions in the antenna the IP-LNB will enable satellite content distribution to the home over a single Ethernet cable. The IP-LNB may be powered over that same cable through Power over Ethernet (PoE) technology, greatly reducing the overall system cost and power consumption.

This new technology enables the satellite signal to be sampled digitally directly at the antenna, making the satellite spectrum data and other link-quality metrics accessible over the LAN. These advancements greatly simplify the dish installation and enable remote monitoring from the LAN.

Designing such a novel LNB requires significant advances in satellite chipset and real-time IP streaming software technology in order to meet the unique system requirements on the size, power consumption, long-term reliability and price point required for a commercially viable outdoor unit (ODU).

[kalpikos]

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More info...

New satellite tech allows up to eight channels to be streamed around the home
via cheap Ethernet cables that could slash the cost of multi-room TV.

The prototype IP-LNB converts satellite signals into data streams that can be carried
over home networks from the satellite dish, getting rid of expensive coaxial cable.

It’s been developed by satellite operator SES with tech firms Inverto,
Abilis and MaxLinear, using the SAT>IP open standard created by SES.

[SatWaveDude]

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Would this setup be expensive?

I have here an TechniSat SkyStart S2 PCI receiver and DVBViewer allows me to use a Plug-in called Netstream so I'm able to stream it with VLC-Player via the local network or via the Internet if you have enough bandwidth available.

Is this mabe what you are talking about here?

[Satphoenix]

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...getting rid of expensive coaxial cable...

Perhaps an alternative (idea...) for those who plan a dish and don't want or don't have the possibility to lay cables.
But I've just completly restored an old house, laid sat-cables in all rooms I needed and this was not really expensive!

[benchsirius]

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To me it seems that this idea would allow channels on different frequencies or polarities to be distributed by an IP network. Once past the receiver ,the current technology exists , like a wireless sender or media streamer. The challenge is from the point of the lnb to the satellite receiver. It would probably involve some sort of compression and an optical fibre at some point.

[SatWaveDude]

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Okay, but how do you apperate the IP-LNB ?

Must your TV have a APP buil-in to controll it?
For iPad, Android etc... you can download most likley an App but otherwise!?

I can not find any usefull information on that on the net

[rizwan]

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I think as this technology improves, I can watch those sat too which are not in my range

[mahrkpat]

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Am I misunderstanding this because I don't see a need for this.
All that seems to me to be different is that the i.p lnb will be able to receive the
full spectrum of the transponder (t.p) the satellite receiver is tuned to, it does
not mean that people say in another room will able to watch a channel on a
different t.p it is more like a loop through function. If you are talking about
making streaming a little easier around the house, wouldn't having something
like a dreambox running E2 streaming to a media centre ( xbmc) be able to
achieve the same thing? Finally what would be the cost of the new receiver be?

[Clark197]

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Would this setup be expensive?

I think the first IP-LNBs will be expensive because it
will be a new chipset development.
The satellite-to-IP servers price start at 250 euros.
The Sat-to-IP Client Receiver(for each TV) cost about 110 euros.
(Telestar DIGIBIT B1).

I have here an TechniSat SkyStart S2 PCI receiver and DVBViewer allows me to use a Plug-in called Netstream so I'm able to stream it with VLC-Player via the local network or via the Internet if you have enough bandwidth available.

Is this mabe what you are talking about here?

It is a further development of Netstream with more flexibility.

rizwan:
you can only watch sat on your range.

SatWaveDude:
Smartphones and tablets play the TV program, for example with the Elgato EyeTV App (price: 3,99 €).

[skytec]

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IP LNB coud be used for 8 channel only??

IP-LNB Key Features
10.7-12.75 GHz Ku-band RF, compliant to SES requirements
8-channel Full-Spectrum Capture™ DVB-S2 single-chip receiver
Broadcast to Broadband Bridge™ SoC
IP and real-time SAT>IP streaming software stacks and protocols.
Gigabit Ethernet LAN connectivity, Wake-on-LAN
Power-over-Ethernet Type I, less than 10W for 8-channel operation
Remote spectrum, temperature and PHY metrics monitoring
SW upgradeable over Ethernet and over satellite broadcast
-40 to +65C operating temperature

[mahrkpat]

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Can someone explain to me what the advantage of having this is?
All I can see is a expensive lnb with a expensive satellite receiver to follow.

[pjmuk]

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Can someone explain to me what the advantage of having this is?
All I can see is a expensive lnb with a expensive satellite receiver to follow.

The way I read it, it means up to eight different channels can be watched at the same time from the same sat, without them all needing to be connected directly to the LNB.

Another article I read suggested each connected device would run on DLNA.

More info here:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-IP

[rizwan]

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Can someone explain to me what the advantage of having this is?
All I can see is a expensive lnb with a expensive satellite receiver to follow.

As I understand, this technology is new type of business, You can access the satellite signals without satellite Dish. As now cable companies provide you various tv channels, in future companies offer you this satellite raw stream and you use your Box to watch or decrypt

[Satphoenix]

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Mmmhhhh,

when I read the grafic in #2 correct, there is a dish!
And you can connect an octo LNB to this dish which means 8 programs (or a singel lnb and 8 programs on a transponder) which are streamed wireless in the home network.
That's it.

mahrkpat: advantage, no cable/sat-receiver necessary, if your tv "understands" the stream, but it's a more expensive solution than normal cable/sat-receiver.

[mahrkpat]

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This does not get rid of the satellite dish but what happens is when the LNB gets
the radio frequency signal from the satellite the electronics in the LNB firstly
demodulates then converts this into i.p data stream this can then be sent like a
IPTV stream over ethernet,4G or wifi to various devices. A thing to note is that
1 lnb feed means access to one transponder at a time and not magically have
access to all transponder at the same time but all channels on that transponder
available to view on different devices.

It becomes interesting like Satphoenix suggests if you connect an octo LNB or
greater, only a single server would be required to decode and distribute signal
instead of having multiple STB's. One problem I can see is that with encrypted
channels how would that work, if only one server is required then only one card
required, I don't think sly would like to get rid of the money making multiroom
subscription, would it make easier to stream to the internet?

Most of the info I got from here:__http://www.ses.com/11193301/SATIP-White-Paper