Risks of cardsharing

[huston]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

How do you know the country of origin of the server?

[bokkie]

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My view is that at the moment, cs is still relatively unknown to the majority of people.
With that in mind sly don't want to make a big deal about it and arrest every tom, dick and harry, thereby giving cs more press and making it more widely known.
This would lead to more people trying it out instead of paying subs to sly and they'd lose subscribers, with a huge war on their hands.
Well thats my view anyway.

[dessertrat]

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Better not to advertise that u are user. It is thru the clients that they get to the server.

[bokkie]

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No it's not illegal to own a receiver, just to cs.

[spectre289]

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The primary payment method on Russian payservers is webmoney e t c. You can even pay with sms (but about 200%)
Make a webmoney account for John Smith, or better Smythe , buy a scratchcard - voila you paid and no one will catch you.

By the way - is it really a crime - to use cardsharing in the west?
Maybe to sell cardsharing services...
But to own a receiver?
I heard in Belorussia they sell linux based receivers with mgcams set up for cs and doesn't worry.
They say Lukashenko doesn't like NTV PLUS - they said something unpleasant about him , so authorities look through the fingers on cardsharing in Belorussia.

The receivers themselves aren't illegal.

[bokkie]

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Like I said, just take as much precaution as possible. If I'm only going to use the cs for an hour a day, I'll only have it connected for an hour a day.
Use servers out of your home country. And like was said in a previous post, If you're sharing sly, don't use them as a broadband provider!

[toby69]

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I think you're right, they probably wouldn't go after the clients, just the servers. But if I can do something to make it as safe as possible for me and reduce the risk, I'm going to do it.

obviously if you can evade, but the old bill will always go after the pushers more likely than the the users, i wouldent worry about it at all.

[bokkie]

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I think you're right, they probably wouldn't go after the clients, just the servers. But if I can do something to make it as safe as possible for me and reduce the risk, I'm going to do it.

[Apples]

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The primary payment method on Russian payservers is webmoney e t c. You can even pay with sms (but about 200%)
Make a webmoney account for John Smith, or better Smythe , buy a scratchcard - voila you paid and no one will catch you.

By the way - is it really a crime - to use cardsharing in the west?
Maybe to sell cardsharing services...
But to own a receiver?
I heard in Belorussia they sell linux based receivers with mgcams set up for cs and doesn't worry.
They say Lukashenko doesn't like NTV PLUS - they said something unpleasant about him , so authorities look through the fingers on cardsharing in Belorussia.

Many time you can be traced, ok you cant trace the payment but the ip and the data traffic from your ip can be logged. But yes, it's true in west europe the last problem is the cardsharing i suppose

[bokkie]

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So you can open up an anonymous account? But how do you pay the money to webmoney, don't you use a credit card?

[besit]

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Try use a russian based server, they're more lax about it.
My other worry is the paper trail. If I have to pay them, how do I pay?
If I use a credit card or paypal, how do I know the server doesn't store the info. If there is a bust the police might then have a paper trail leading right back to me.

The primary payment method on Russian payservers is webmoney e t c. You can even pay with sms (but about 200%)
Make a webmoney account for John Smith, or better Smythe , buy a scratchcard - voila you paid and no one will catch you.

By the way - is it really a crime - to use cardsharing in the west?
Maybe to sell cardsharing services...
But to own a receiver?
I heard in Belorussia they sell linux based receivers with mgcams set up for cs and doesn't worry.
They say Lukashenko doesn't like NTV PLUS - they said something unpleasant about him , so authorities look through the fingers on cardsharing in Belorussia.

[bokkie]

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I have asked the op's question a number of times as well.
I think the best way to go about it is disconnect your ethernet or wireless connection from the box when not in use. They can't see your ip if you're not connected.
Try use a russian based server, they're more lax about it.
My other worry is the paper trail. If I have to pay them, how do I pay?
If I use a credit card or paypal, how do I know the server doesn't store the info. If there is a bust the police might then have a paper trail leading right back to me.
I also want to find out about proxy or vpn. How can I do this on a spiderbox?
How can I make sure I stay as safe as possible?

[noypi]

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But for this you need to pay two ISPs.

i know. i got a very cheap internet bundle with my mobile phone but not fast enough for downloads (with download limit) and day to day browsing so i had to get another one which is fast enough and also unlimited.

[redhezuk]

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yes. there is no secure system. one can only make a system more difficult to crack.
in my case, my spiderbox is connecting to the net via 1 internet provider and my computers are connecting via another isp so the servers know my ip address but can't access to my files because the computers are on a different isp.

But for this you need to pay two ISPs.

[gpaolobvt]

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CCCam 2.0.7 openssl seems to exist

Can you give me a little more information ?

Thanks

Has anyone tried tunneling over IP ?
Doing so makes the flow completely transparent and untraceable.

That seems great....
Where can i get information about how to do tunneling over ip for DM800?

Many thanks