Risks of cardsharing

[bokkie]

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in my opinion,the safest way is LEGAL way!if you are only client-no problems,if you are server than i'ts a little problem because i think others clients are connected to your server.if you put rec.in deep standby mode,the server is down and your friends cannot use your card.it is safe but is useful?

What do you mean best way is legal way?
In the U.K. if you're a client you're still breaking the law.

[gauloises1]

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in my opinion,the safest way is LEGAL way!if you are only client-no problems,if you are server than i'ts a little problem because i think others clients are connected to your server.if you put rec.in deep standby mode,the server is down and your friends cannot use your card.it is safe but is useful?

[bokkie]

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Yes bokkie
Ukash lets you use your cash to pay online by exchanging your notes and coins for a voucher.

I've heard of this and it is a good idea.
however most commercial servers only accept paypal. Some accept western union, which I think allows you to go to a paypoint and transfer into their account.

[easydigital]

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Yes bokkie
Ukash anonymous lets you use your cash to pay online by exchanging your notes and coins for a voucher.

[microchick]

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The other thing is the payment. Is there a method of paying anonymously online?
Paypal is the normal method of payment, but it needs a bank account doesn't it?

I have read about it on this forum, may be this thread, that the CS provider asked the client to send a particular voucher, like shopping gift cards or something like that, by post instead of paying via paypal or western union. I thought that was a really brilliant idea to stay annonymous.

[bokkie]

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There are 2 ways of tracing a client. The ip address and payment records.
If you connected your stb to the internet with a prepaid 3g sim would this not keep you anonymous?
It does cost more as you need a compatible router and need to top up the 3g sim, but data usage is minimal.
The other thing is the payment. Is there a method of paying anonymously online?
Paypal is the normal method of payment, but it needs a bank account doesn't it?

[Triad]

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hi

Thanks for the clear info ; can't help it, but I keep on wandering how the server can be loaded when the box is in standby and the signal or the router of this specific line in the router isn't active. Also in the router soft/login, there's no active session or IP address.
Can this be explained or do I get this wrong?

Anyway, will try to put in in standby on fta with server off.

Hello Pan, your cccam activity doesn't show on router infos as I understood.
Also, try to watch when you disconnect cccam either from telnet or with remote, cccam needs some time to connect on some channel again.
When, on the other side, you put the rec to standby leaving it on some channel encrypted, when you turn it on again it will not need that much time to decode it and it'll decode it almost momentarily!
That by itself is enough proof that it stays connected after standby!
Also as you turn it in standby, if you connect through DCC or other ftp telnet client, it will connect the network as if it's always on.
The same procedure is with all other functions, like channel editing and web zapping, as it was never in standby!!!
It's linux rec, Enigma is made to be always available because of server options of the rec as well as all the other ones before cs come to the scene.

cheers m8

triad my friend i myself have always been careful, but to put the cat among the pidgeons thought this might be intresting reading.

One significant problem for internet card sharing pirates is that their activities can be traced, through tracing of their unique IP address. Cases of criminal charges being brought against card sharing hosts is on the rise. In August 2009, a Liverpool man was prosecuted for re-selling the services of a card sharing network to paying customers. It was the first such case of its type in the UK. Two further raids occurred in the UK during early 2011, instigated by UK Cable Operator V**GEN M**** so keep your doors locked, and switch off at night.
colour red means all us.
toby69

Yes Toby, but they must narrow the IP range since dynamic addresses are harder to locate. Also if it's NAT linux server internet access in question like in WIFI nets, one statis IP is connected to all the users, which number could be quite high. So it's harder to get the server on IP service only!
FnkyB said it quite well there!
It's quite easy when they cooperate with some pay provider like PayPal where Interpol cyber crime dept. is informing pay pal of it's intent in accordance with law of the country and they react accordingly in coordinated fashion.
And it's quite logical that Sky Uk would be the first provider to try to cut CS off of it's network of 8 mill users. When you do the math it's quite a money ... And it has been proved that there's no easy way of stopping CS at all, event with pairing.
By my opinion, the only way would be the one embedded in Scientific Atlanta receivers of American Forces network in Europe and Mid. East.
On PV system, there's no way of getting CS online, at least I never heard of any managing to achieve such feat!
But, what the Heckk! as long as there's no European laws in a way all other countries could use CS freely and distribute as well!

Yes Toby "To put the cat among the pidgeons"
You said it quite well.

[FunkyB]

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I guess with pay servers they would be able to get all the financial records and then trace you by your bank account. I think even PayPal you need a legit bank account unless there is an untraceable method of online payment.

[pan1300]

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Right, I think it's correct the hosts are searched for.

Must say I'm very convinced meanwhile that it's best to switch off. Still - and sorry to keep asking this, but like to know - can someone confirm that when my box is on standby (and no signal on the router or active IP that moment) the server is not loaded and there's no risk?

[toby69]

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triad my friend i myself have always been careful, but to put the cat among the pidgeons thought this might be intresting reading.

One significant problem for internet card sharing pirates is that their activities can be traced, through tracing of their unique IP address. Cases of criminal charges being brought against card sharing hosts is on the rise. In August 2009, a Liverpool man was prosecuted for re-selling the services of a card sharing network to paying customers. It was the first such case of its type in the UK. Two further raids occurred in the UK during early 2011, instigated by UK Cable Operator V**GEN M**** so keep your doors locked, and switch off at night.
colour red means all us.
toby69

[pan1300]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

hi

Thanks for the clear info ; can't help it, but I keep on wandering how the server can be loaded when the box is in standby and the signal or the router of this specific line in the router isn't active. Also in the router soft/login, there's no active session or IP address.
Can this be explained or do I get this wrong?

Anyway, will try to put in in standby on fta with server off.

[Triad]

Re: Risks of cardsharing

Yes, if you've turned off emu then there's no server load!
It affects the server only when you view the channels and decrypt them 'cause server must give you ecm response for dcw to create in your rec! So technically speaking, server is loaded with your ecm request! So it does affect the server, and that's why it's needed to turn off emu or leave it on some fta channel which is much faster.
cheers

[pan1300]

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As said, try to go on standby on fta and without cccam. My box is only connected to the router and in standby there is no signal on the router/internet. Also I presume that this doens't affect the server -> Can this be confirmed or am I wrong??


refer to post 161.

[Bazinga]

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when you finnish viewing, if you leave your box on standby always leave on fta chn as this also helps the server.

I use mgcamd and when its on standby it doesn't use ECM, on my dm800.

[toby69]

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All right as a 'simple user' I have no fear ; I doubt 'they' will look for us. Me too, normally turn cccam off before shutting down, indeed perhaps even better to tune to fta (will try not to forget).

when you finnish viewing, if you leave your box on standby always leave on fta chn as this also helps the server.