Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

[kalpikos]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

I also think that the next step will be a built-in wifi and a DVB-T tuner or even a triple tuner.

Sunray knows how to do it

As for the solo2 Mini its back side of the case looks like a 800se or a 500s

[digicon]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

No DVB-C Tuner on the Solo2 though and probably never will be not hard wired anyway

[bokkie]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

I guess the next step for the clones would be a DVB-C cable version.
with the rise of the cable scene in parts of the u.k. it's inevitable.

[kalpikos]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

I would like to inform the members of the forum about some new clones that already are on the market.

- Sunray Solo2 -



- Vu solo2 Mini -



I don't more information about the quality of these clones but they seem to have bad quality like the chinese dreambox clone.

If someone have more infos about them, please to inform the forum.

[kalpikos]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

hi,

... even with the magic miniFlashup button ?

What miniFlashup button ?

Vu+ solo2 doesn't has such a button.

This button can be found only in clone dm800se.

The software update (flashing) on a Vu+ solo2 can be done only with a usb stick.

[aplok]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

... which after the HW error (flashed with a new image) can't be recovered by flashing with an old image.
The clone box is stuck and it wont boot.

hi,

... even with the magic miniFlashup button ?

[kalpikos]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

Just for information,

the biggest China's stores advertising the clone VU+ Solo2 as genuine and also they have pictures taken from the original receiver.

Moreover, I have read on the net for at least one clone which after the HW error (flashed with a new image) can't be recovered by flashing with an old image.
The clone box is stuck and it wont boot.

... so maybe we talk about either for a hardware malfunction or for a destructive image, a bomb.

[bokkie]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

Null modem cable is used.for recovery. Normal flashing is done via usb/network.
there has never been a bomb as such. The only thing that would happen if flashed with unsafe image is that the stb would get stuck on starting. Simply flashing with a safe image would get the stb working again.
yes the security chip has a similar purpose to those of dm clones,
Problems arose when vu+ introduced new drivers and the security chip was no longer fast enough.
The cloners overcame this by developing a faster security chip which you would need to solder to the main board in order to use latest images.
quality was shocking. Psu's were particularly bad with my stb going through 3 power supplies.
the second one that blew took my 1tb hdd with it.
my advise is to stay away from these clones. If you can't afford the genuine thing, rather get a cheaper genuine stb.

[aplok]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

exact copy with same label. Differences are that clone comes with null modem cable, has a sticker with website where you can download clone safe images and it has a security chip on the main board.

exact copy with same label
> so, it is what i call a irregular copy of the hardware

this means fraud, an potential custom problem

Differences are that
- comes with null modem cable
welcomed if needed
is it need for flashing ?
can you also flash with network interface ?


has a sticker with website where you can download clone safe images
onlyfor offical clony image support,
so zero risk of bomb contamination by genuine official image

it has a security chip on the main board
what is it ?
is it related with the so called sim2.10 ? a8p ? ferari's stuf ?

--
btw

does if have on the rear side of the box,
the magic button miniflashup-button

__http://www.sl-forums.com/forum/dm-800-hd-se-files/48021-how-to-flash-estar-800se-with-miniflashup-button.html?highlight=magic+button

and last but not least,
what about the quality?: sound, image, speed, noise, connector

[bokkie]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

hi,

btw

is your 'vu+ duo' labelled 'vu+duo' ?

or

is your 'vu+ duo' not labelled 'vu+duo' but a labelled with a 'clone-name', like, for instance 'uv+ udo' ?

i mean, is it a regular copy of the genuine, (with an different label)
or is it a irregular copy of the genuine, (with the same label)

---

the underlying question is maybe the official clone (copy with another name) may perform better than smurgler clone (copy with the genuine name)

thx

exact copy with same label. Differences are that clone comes with null modem cable, has a sticker with website where you can download clone safe images and it has a security chip on the main board.

[gianni253]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

My point is, How to prevent some accidental purchase, without knowing, whether its original or clone, ...

Also selling price will tell you a lot about authenticity

[fandm]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

Hi try the satellitesuperstore you should get a original from them just ******.

[kalpikos]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

My point is, How to prevent some accidental purchase, without knowing, whether its original or clone, you may check it later about it is not accepting Driver, can't check it at the shop

I see your point and you are right.

The only way to avoid a clone before buying is to be careful from where you are shopping.
Select only trusted shops and never buy from ebay or from shops that they are only on a block-page for few days with bargains.
I try to find a vu+ official retailers list but I found nothing.

[aplok]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

My vu+ duo clone is now sitting where it belongs. In a box in the loft. ...

hi,

btw

is your 'vu+ duo' labelled 'vu+duo' ?

or

is your 'vu+ duo' not labelled 'vu+duo' but a labelled with a 'clone-name', like, for instance 'uv+ udo' ?

i mean, is it a regular copy of the genuine, (with an different label)
or is it a irregular copy of the genuine, (with the same label)

---

the underlying question is maybe the official clone (copy with another name) may perform better than smurgler clone (copy with the genuine name)

thx

[rizwan]

Re: Caution!!! VU+ Solo2 clones

My point is, How to prevent some accidental purchase, without knowing, whether its original or clone, you may check it later about it is not accepting Driver, can't check it at the shop